COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (7 Viewers)

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Sometimes I wonder if, as a species, humans should’ve been extinct by now and we‘re living on borrowed time which is about to expire.
For each of the last 10 years, my brother-in-law and I have sat on a Florida beach and discussed this same thing (well, Mother Nature cleaning house not total extinction). It will be a more pointed conversation this year.
 
I'm also wondering if the increased vitamin D due to sun exposure in the summer is reducing the severity of the disease. Some studies have proven that vitamin D has a pretty big impact with SARS in correlation with the severity of the case. The fall/winter months will likely give us this answer. It could just be the younger age, still a lag between tests/deaths and better treatment options but even with steroids and remdesevir the death rate should only change a little. My concern with this wave will get going in about another 10 days. That's when the transmission between the young and older populations are likely to start happening.

I’ve seen average time to death around 18 days. That’s a broad average but it shows that the disease takes a while. The current spike began in earnest in mid-June. We’re really only two weeks in, so it’s too early to be making calls about severity as some are.

But maybe there are factors in it being less severe. Perhaps seasonality. Perhaps ‘mutation to the benign’ as they say. Too early to call.
 
Gotcha. There's no question too large a segment of the population are naive and ignorant and will believe anything.

If it reinforces their preexisting biases.

Conversely, they won't believe anything that contradicts them. Even when it hits them upside the head.
 
I know of a small two-doctor Dental office that was not requiring masks except when actually in the patient room with the patient. So meetings in small rooms with 10+ people; no mask. Before and after patients, no mask. They had one assistant test positive, didn't tell the rest of the employees, and threatened to fire the Covid+ person if they told anyone. 2nd employee tested positive, same exact thing). A 3rd employee started feeling sick and was told not to get tested (and to come to work).

Don't know what happened after that because the person I know quit the practice at that point (everyone in the office knew what was up). We looked for ways to report them or get them in trouble somehow. Apparently there is no recourse whatsoever for this via the city, county, or dental regulatory authority, except to doxx them which she didn't want to do. Absolutely shocking. Although this particular city is mostly known for systemic enablement and covering up of rape, system enablement and covering up of a mass murder by the police, and systemic enablement and covering up of a mass murder by the FBI. So transparency and ethics might not be their thing.
This really pisses me off
 
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It should have never been "political" but maybe the tide is finally turning?





If this is based on polling or whatever, that is fine. Just wear the damn masks and try to do something, anything, to slow the spread. I want my kids to go to school. I want to buy $3 beers at Tulane football games. Wear a mask.
 
It should have never been "political" but maybe the tide is finally turning?





If this is based on polling or whatever, that is fine. Just wear the damn masks and try to do something, anything, to slow the spread. I want my kids to go to school. I want to buy $3 beers at Tulane football games. Wear a mask.

4 months in. I'll never forgive them for the way they politicized freaking masks, constantly lied, minimized the virus, created one conspiracy after another, had months of inaction, slowed testing, refused to accept tests from WHO early on and used the treasury to put this country in extreme debt.

But
Better late than never.
 
My neice in Plano, Tx who works at a restaurant tested positive today, high fever, difficulty breathing and had to go to the hospital. She's only 19 but has a rare heart condition that makes it particularly worrisome.

My long time friend's daughter tested positive today, she is 18 and has high fever and exhaustion. She works at a gym.

Friend I used to chase storms with has two sisters. One lives in Argentina and the other in South Carolina. They both tested positive today, one is a nurse in SC and the one in Argentina is roomates with a nurse who passed it on to her.

Friend and guy that helps on my WXChasing page, his brother and grandmother in Alabama got tested on Friday and their results came back positive today. His brother is only showing mild symptoms but his grandmother is not doing well at all, neither of them know how they got the virus.

Been a rough day and I'm know well over 20 people now that have/had covid.
 
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We were talking about whether to head over to the (FL) coast for a couple days, but no way am I going right now.

Good choice, buzd. I know you remember Ziggy/Terry from the golf outings at Audobon Park. He just returned Saturday from his annual Fathers Day trip to Navarre Beach. He rented his usual condo. As the pandemic unfolded, he and all of his family (wife, three kids, and now 8 grandchildren) all were meticulous in taking all precautions. They all cooked all their meals at home and had very limited exposure to grocery stores.

He tried to continue that over in Florida, but not all the other visitors were doing it. Anytime they left the condo it was with masks on. He inferred that even though the weather was perfect and they had a good time, they just weren't comfortable. It's not much of a vacation if you feel uncomfortable. You might come back more stressed than when you left. Maybe try a virtual vacation if there is such a thing or try preparing some new exotic dishes you've never tried before. Also, the word was being spread amongst the locals that the condo rentals are going to be shut down again.

I'm hearing the Alabama beachgoers are even more relaxed with their precautions.
 
I’ve seen average time to death around 18 days. That’s a broad average but it shows that the disease takes a while. The current spike began in earnest in mid-June. We’re really only two weeks in, so it’s too early to be making calls about severity as some are.

But maybe there are factors in it being less severe. Perhaps seasonality. Perhaps ‘mutation to the benign’ as they say. Too early to call.
Way too early. Just interesting to see how it plays out.

Until we can see demographics and outcomes after the spike is well over we wont really know. Just throwing out some thoughts on the Vitamin D. I do feel pretty confident that the original spread of the virus likely happened in the younger people first before spreading to the older generations. It explains how the outbreak could get so out of hand in some places before it was noticeable. I think NYC went from 1 case to 100k cases in a matter of a few weeks.
 
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