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We had a 3rd and 22 late in the 3rd quarter.

Take into consideration shotgun formation and a slight back pedal before stepping up and throwing. You are talking about a 30 yard pass in the air up the seem. Or a 35 yard pass in the air to the sideline.

We need to pull Brees in these situations. He doesn’t have the arm to thread it between defenders at that distance. Unless the DB really gets messed up.
Why do we need a 35 yard pass on 3rd and 22? Any QB in the nfl can make a 22 yard throw. Derek Carr did it several times tonight. Sean Payton didn’t trust Drew to make those throws.
 
We abandoned the run because we were losing the game. And Sean called exactly 0 “down the field” shots. 3rd down an 12, we throw it to the flat. That it NOT trusting your QB

It was 24-17 when the Saints first got the ball in the second half. They ran the ball one time. There's no excuse for that when they were averaging over six yards a carry to that point.

It was still 24-17 on the Saints' second possession. They ran twice. Brees got a five yard completion and two incompletions.

It's time to stop leaning on Brees. Gameplan like he's Bridgewater because that's the ceiling on his throws now.
 
It was 24-17 when the Saints first got the ball in the second half. They ran the ball one time. There's no excuse for that when they were averaging over six yards a carry to that point.

It was still 24-17 on the Saints' second possession. They ran twice. Brees got a five yard completion and two incompletions.

It's time to stop leaning on Brees. Gameplan like he's Bridgewater because that's the ceiling on his throws now.
I hate that I’m even thinking of this.....but I’m just ready for him to retire. I love the guy. And he’ll forever be my favorite Saint. But Jameis could do better
 
I hate that I’m even thinking of this.....but I’m just ready for him to retire. I love the guy. And he’ll forever be my favorite Saint. But Jameis could do better

I wanted him to retire and for us to keep Bridgewater. Losing a game like this wouldn't feel nearly as bad with Bridgewater as it does with a Hall of Famer who has all the records. But I honestly think the Saints win this one with Bridgewater because Payton would have stuck to the run. The defense wouldn't have seen the field as often and it's obvious Dennis Allen didn't do a good enough job in the film room.
 
I wanted him to retire and for us to keep Bridgewater. Losing a game like this wouldn't feel nearly as bad with Bridgewater as it does with a Hall of Famer who has all the records. But I honestly think the Saints win this one with Bridgewater because Payton would have stuck to the run. The defense wouldn't have seen the field as often and it's obvious Dennis Allen didn't do a good enough job in the film room.

The way this defense played today, not one chance Bridgewater wins this game. We let Derek Carr have a damn near perfect game with a busted up O-Line and beat up receivers.
 
The Raiders had something to do with how bad the Saints looked tonight. They played a great game even after falling behind early. They were the better team for the last three quarters.
 
The Raiders had something to do with how bad the Saints looked tonight. They played a great game even after falling behind early. They were the better team for the last three quarters.

Bill, while I understand that it has something to do with the Raiders, the truth is, we would've lost that game to 75% of the teams from how they played tonight. It's concerning that they didn't have that great of a performance last week either
 
The way this defense played today, not one chance Bridgewater wins this game. We let Derek Carr have a damn near perfect game with a busted up O-Line and beat up receivers.

Maybe not but at least it wouldn't have been a double digit loss. The Raiders wouldn't have had enough time. And while Bridgewater may not throw deep often he is absolutely more of a threat to do it than Brees is at this point.
 
The Raiders had something to do with how bad the Saints looked tonight. They played a great game even after falling behind early. They were the better team for the last three quarters.

That’s always a 2 way street. If one team plays great, it’s because the other team didn’t.......and we didn’t.
 
I wanted him to retire and for us to keep Bridgewater. Losing a game like this wouldn't feel nearly as bad with Bridgewater as it does with a Hall of Famer who has all the records. But I honestly think the Saints win this one with Bridgewater because Payton would have stuck to the run. The defense wouldn't have seen the field as often and it's obvious Dennis Allen didn't do a good enough job in the film room.


Bridgwater is not the answer. Not even close. I like the guy, but our D won most of those games. Carolina will be lucky to win more than 3 games. I just hope they won’t get Lawrence.
 
It’s not just about talent tho, guys looked sloppy and legathric. Only guys came to play was Demario, Hendrickson, Kamara, Tre’Quan and Harris. Need more guys to show up than that.

this is part of it i think - one of this teams biggest weaknesses imo has always been focus and concentration - whether that be having a bad game from the start because they never showed up ready to play, or they start off hot get up and go to sleep after, letting a team either come all the way back, or get back into a game they had no business being in. In short - killer instinct. Keep that focus and hunger throughout and win the game with no questions asked. Dominate. Its a talented roster - but the killer instinct hasnt been there, and again tonight lots of players asleep at the wheel.

The team that played tonight was not a playoff team... next week will be interesting to see, if we play like tonight we will get smashed.
 
Emmanuel Sanders...

One catch in garbage time, when he was supposed to step up with MT on the bench...

Troubling...
 
How can arguably the most talented Saints roster ever looks like the worse Saints team ever out of the last decade? My god, I have never seen this team play horrible in back to back weeks for so long.

For now, maybe tamper your 13+ wins expectations...I'd be happy winning 10 games as a WC.
I think it's over-rated.

The OL looks pretty stacked, but how do we use it?

Do we run the ball, stay committed to running?

WR is still problematic, though Smith did something. But even with a true deep threat, Drew can no longer get the ball there and is having accuracy issues even on short throws, which may or may not improve with more reps.

Really the defense looks to have regressed. Pass rush is inconsistent, Jenkins a step slow, really poor tackling, can't cover a TE.

That was the ugliest defensive performance since 2016. Looked like the waning days of Rob Ryan.
 
this is part of it i think - one of this teams biggest weaknesses imo has always been focus and concentration - whether that be having a bad game from the start because they never showed up ready to play, or they start off hot get up and go to sleep after, letting a team either come all the way back, or get back into a game they had no business being in. In short - killer instinct. Keep that focus and hunger throughout and win the game with no questions asked. Dominate. Its a talented roster - but the killer instinct hasnt been there, and again tonight lots of players asleep at the wheel.

The team that played tonight was not a playoff team... next week will be interesting to see, if we play like tonight we will get smashed.
Exactly, the commentator kept saying it, the Saints haven't been 2-0 since 2013, why? All of this doesn't have to do w/ talent, it's that they lose focus and concentration and get sloppy and look bad. Since 2013 this has been happening and this also plays into the reason why we have not been to a SB since 2009.
 

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