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Try to imagine the outcome if not for the video taken by a teenager of the interaction.
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what a sheetastic way for it to have to happen. only positive is little justice. very little. i'm still in the camp of being more 1st than 2nd degree.Not most.....all. Only people who are purposefully twisted, hateful and demented try to make it anything other than cold blooded murder.
no kidding. he did right, as best as possible, by any, for the late mr. floyd.Try to imagine the outcome if not for the video taken by a teenager of the interaction.
Yeah...he’s guilty. But I do think the appeal is reasonable. The jury selection and preventing outside influence was probably impossible on this one. But I’m glad for at least a moment the family gets justice and can begin to heal.There's talk on grounds for appeal. The jury couldn't be kept from outside influences/public coverage of Floyd's death, and that could have tainted the verdict.
I don't really care about that. I'm elated by the verdict.
In a way this doesn't feel like a verdict from just the jury, it feels like a ruling from the concerned public in general, and I like that. The jury represented me and most of us who saw all the evidence broadcast every day. Thanks to the jury.
I hope that, after appeals, the verdict stands and Chauvin serves the maximum time.
What I saw this morning said that 12 1/2 is the starting point for someone with no criminal history, but because of multiple aggravating factors (cruelty, the presence of minors), he will likely have additional years tacked on.I found this too.
Derek Chauvin cuffed after murder, manslaughter convictions in death of George Floyd
Jurors began weighing the evidence Monday after hearing from 44 witnesses over 14 days of testimony.www.startribune.com
So, I'd guess 12 and a half years is what he'll get.
For sure. Of course, there were other videos as well. But yeah, if there was no video, I have no doubt this cop would still be working today.Try to imagine the outcome if not for the video taken by a teenager of the interaction.
IMO, If some of the jurors ONLY voted guilty because of the riot threat or whatever, then he wouldn't have been found guilty on all 3 charges. They would have gone with one of the lesser charges.Yeah...he’s guilty. But I do think the appeal is reasonable. The jury selection and preventing outside influence was probably impossible on this one. But I’m glad for at least a moment the family gets justice and can begin to heal.
Makiya Bryant had called the police bc she was defending herself from an attack (she was holding a knife). Officer drove up and shot her 4 times
She was 15 years old
What I saw this morning said that 12 1/2 is the starting point for someone with no criminal history, but because of multiple aggravating factors (cruelty, the presence of minors), he will likely have additional years tacked on.
IMO, If some of the jurors ONLY voted guilty because of the riot threat or whatever, then he wouldn't have been found guilty on all 3 charges. They would have gone with one of the lesser charges.
Not to play devil's advocate, but seriously? Only 22 complaints in 19 years? In a job where every day, every person you meet is either an outright criminal, beligerently P'Oed off, afraid for their lives, or just severely stressed from some kind of trauma? That's just over 1 per year. I'd like to see those "complaints". Were they from the people being arrested or generally not getting their way? People who didn't like the outcome, no matter how correct it may have been? How many times do we see the "Karens" come out and complain about things that either aren't actual problems or just not the way they want it? They may be legitimate complaints or they may be frivolous. I don't know. Just something to think about....One report I read had 22 listed complaints against Chauvin over a 19 year career at the department...
Not to play devil's advocate, but seriously? Only 22 complaints in 19 years? In a job where every day, every person you meet is either an outright criminal, beligerently P'Oed off, afraid for their lives, or just severely stressed from some kind of trauma? That's just over 1 per year. I'd like to see those "complaints". Were they from the people being arrested or generally not getting their way? People who didn't like the outcome, no matter how correct it may have been? How many times do we see the "Karens" come out and complain about things that either aren't actual problems or just not the way they want it? They may be legitimate complaints or they may be frivolous. I don't know. Just something to think about.
Yeah, for 19 years, that seems low. I dunno what's typical though. I would imagine beat cops who interact with people every day are going to get a lot more complaints than most other officers.
Yeah, I'm just setting the floor.What I saw this morning said that 12 1/2 is the starting point for someone with no criminal history, but because of multiple aggravating factors (cruelty, the presence of minors), he will likely have additional years tacked on.