The Derek Chauvin trial {Mod Edit: Guilty on all charges} (1 Viewer)

Will he be in solitary just until he is sentenced or will this be his life for the next X years?
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Derek Chauvin is being held in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day in Minnesota’s only maximum-security prison after he was convicted of murdering George Floyd and led out of a courtroom in handcuffs, according to authorities.....

Mr. Chauvin, who is being held as he waits to be sentenced, will be alone in his cell for all but one hour each day, during which he is allowed to exercise. Even then, he will be kept away from all other prisoners and remain under the watch of prison guards inside the unit..........


Smh...solitary confinement in a cell alone for 23 hours a day is cruel and unusual punishment. Remove him from society, yes, but this isn't necessary. There's ways to ensure his safety that don't require this level of torment.

Our police and prison system both need an overhaul.
 
Smh...solitary confinement in a cell alone for 23 hours a day is cruel and unusual punishment. Remove him from society, yes, but this isn't necessary. There's ways to ensure his safety that don't require this level of torment.

Our police and prison system both need an overhaul.

I tend to agree. But, I'm not really sure what the alternative is for someone who is separated from gen pop. I doubt he'd live long around other prisoners regularly.
 
I tend to agree. But, I'm not really sure what the alternative is for someone who is separated from gen pop. I doubt he'd live long around other prisoners regularly.
Exactly.....he would be a goner in no time flat.
 
A recently-surfaced photo shows one of the jurors on Derek Chauvin's trial wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt at a police-accountability protest last summer, possibly complicating the former officer's guilty verdict.

The photo in question shows Brandon Mitchell, or juror 52, attending a rally in Washington, DC, in August, named the "'Get Off Our Necks' Commitment March." You can see it here.

The protest was pegged to the 57th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s March on Washington, and the shirt Mitchell wears in the photo includes King's likeness and includes the words "Get your knee of our necks" and "BLM."

Multiple people tweeted that this suggested Mitchell was impartial as a juror.......



 
A recently-surfaced photo shows one of the jurors on Derek Chauvin's trial wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt at a police-accountability protest last summer, possibly complicating the former officer's guilty verdict.

The photo in question shows Brandon Mitchell, or juror 52, attending a rally in Washington, DC, in August, named the "'Get Off Our Necks' Commitment March." You can see it here.

The protest was pegged to the 57th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s March on Washington, and the shirt Mitchell wears in the photo includes King's likeness and includes the words "Get your knee of our necks" and "BLM."

Multiple people tweeted that this suggested Mitchell was impartial as a juror.......





If he intentionally hid his support for BLM during jury selection questioning, I think that would be problematic. But, if he didn't try to hide it, I'm not seeing this being an issue. That said, I have no idea what the jury questioning looked like during the selection process.
 
A recently-surfaced photo shows one of the jurors on Derek Chauvin's trial wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt at a police-accountability protest last summer, possibly complicating the former officer's guilty verdict.

The photo in question shows Brandon Mitchell, or juror 52, attending a rally in Washington, DC, in August, named the "'Get Off Our Necks' Commitment March." You can see it here.

The protest was pegged to the 57th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s March on Washington, and the shirt Mitchell wears in the photo includes King's likeness and includes the words "Get your knee of our necks" and "BLM."

Multiple people tweeted that this suggested Mitchell was impartial as a juror.......




that particular Tweeter is an interesting read...
anyway

Mitchell said he answered “no” to two questions about demonstrations on the questionnaire sent out before jury selection.

The first question asked: “Did you, or someone close to you, participate in any of the demonstrations or marches against police brutality that took place in Minneapolis after George Floyd’s death?” The second asked: “Other than what you have already described above, have you, or anyone close to you, participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality?”

Mitchell told Nelson during jury selection that he had a “very favorable” opinion of Black Lives Matter, that he knew some police officers at his gym who are “great guys,” and that he felt neutral about Blue Lives Matter, a pro-police group. He also said he had watched clips of bystander video of Floyd being pinned and had wondered why three other officers at the scene didn’t intervene.

He said he could be neutral at trial.

Mitchell told the Star Tribune that last summer’s protest was “100% not” a march for Floyd.

“It was directly related to MLK’s March on Washington from the ’60s … The date of the March on Washington is the date … It was literally called the anniversary of the March on Washington,” he said.
 
How bad is this? Is there a real chance of this being overturned?
 
If the Chauvin team gets the right Judge in the appeals process, he might have a decent shot at winning. Politicians and that one juror that did that big interview should have just kept their mouths shut. Now you have this incident, just one big quagmire after another.
 
How bad is this? Is there a real chance of this being overturned?
i mean there were always going to come with some sort of appeal
and what's going to happen now is the george floyd side will consider this a done deal and focus on all the other abuse cases out there, and people like this tweeter who is running for a seat in Fla will pump out mis/disinformation to create a ground swell - to what extent it will be effective remains to be seen
but i could easily imagine reduced charges
 
There always was. I'd be surprised if it weren't to be honest.

Why? I mean, I saw the Waters and Biden comments before and after deliberations and I wouldn't think those had any affect on the jury. This potential issue with the juror could be something, but he answered some pretty specific questions, so unless there is legitimate proof that he lied during questioning, I don't see this being an issue either.

That said, you never know when something comes up on appeals. We'll see.
 
It's like being written up once a year at a regular job. Or having recordable safety incidents every year in a construction job.

A ticket or a wreck every 12 months for a driver. No way you last past year 3 or 4. He went 19. Not to mention the years where there were multiples.

Those are the kinds of people who eventually end up doing exactly what he did. The warning signs were there.
Moreover, the department handed over the training of rookies to the guy whose habitually written up. That screams cultural issues.
 
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How bad is this? Is there a real chance of this being overturned?

I suspect there’s case law on similar or analogous situations (where a juror has misrepresented something on the questionnaire response). I really don’t know, but my sense is that it probably isn’t enough to overturn the verdict. But without looking at what the proper legal a analysis is and the case law on this issue, anyone who says it will or will not impact the verdict is likely talking out of their arse.
 
So the juror didn't attend a "protest" or anything specific to Floyd. He attended a march to commemorate the 57th anniversary of the March on Washington, when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his iconic “I Have a Dream” speech.
A couple articles i saw posted, the headlines said he attended a protest, which is completely false information. To say he was partial because he attended this rally would be a reach.
 

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