COVID-19 Outbreak Information Updates (Reboot) [over 150.000,000 US cases (est.), 6,422,520 US hospitilizations, 1,148,691 US deaths.] (18 Viewers)

[SystemShock]

yes something is being "emitted" from the vaccinated persons body.

Its not readily "visible" to the naked eye, but something is emanating from them and into non-vaccinated people.

They actually wrote, typed and mailed this out to every enrolled family.

Its insanity. We are in some sort of bizarro world.

It's the gamma radiation from the RFID chips that Bill Gates planted in the vaccine.

 

[SystemShock]

$25k/year to receive such knowledge!

They don't pay $25k/year for knowledge.

 

[sammymvpknight]

So the whole "should we wear masks outside" thing is blowing up. It appears that the CDC is changing its guidance on the use of masks outdoors. And some political commentators are now encouraging people to consider it a form of "abuse" if you see a child outdoors with a mask on.

The problem with this whole issue, again, is that Americans are stupid and cannot handle conditional information or nuance - everything has to be distilled to the dumbest, lowest common denominator . . . which leads to this kind of inane debate.

It has been obvious to me since probably last Spring, that wearing a mask outside is usually unnecessary - there is excellent natural air flow outside and most of the time you're outdoors you aren't near a bunch of other people. Early research was pretty clear that risk of infection outside was low enough that masks weren't really needed unless you're mixed in with a bunch of people in close proximity.

I haven't worn a mask outside at all, except for those times I'm in a bit of a crowd. I don't expect my kids to wear masks outside unless they're in very close proximity with other kids, e.g. on the playground near our house with tube slides and other confined spaces. And we only tell them to mask up if there's a bunch of other kids in the same spaces.

But the CDC could never issue guidance that says "the more people you have in a small space, the more appropriate it becomes . . . use good judgment" because many Americans can't operate on that kind of standard.

Exactly. I personally think that if you're socially distance, you are fine. But if you are crammed together bumping up against people, then of course you're at risk of getting a whiff of the COVID. The problem is that it is really difficult to lay out nuance when you're setting guidelines. It's just too bad that the CDC can't say..."you've been living in COVID world for over a year now people...use common sense...that's our policy."

 

[efil4stnias]

It's the gamma radiation from the RFID chips that Bill Gates planted in the vaccine.

Great - soon enough ill hate stairs and want to smash.

 

[sammymvpknight]

That's how we've operated for pretty much this entire time. Only once at this park have we put on masks, and that's because there was a huge crowd by one of the soccer field's. Once we were past that, masks off.

Otherwise, it's only if it's enforced outdoors, like at Universal/Disney or some parks.

I see people put their mask on when they get close to other people. That's their call. I don't mind it.

If I'm wearing my mask leaving my car to enter a store, it's just easier for me to have it on, then take out my phone or whatever. like, when I arrive to work, especially if I have coffee or something in my hands, I put my mask on before I get out of the car, just to have less crap to fumble around with.

Overall, I think it goes back to that NY Times e-mail I posted a couple days ago about "compassion" being the right way to go about it. Why mock someone for being safe?

Indoors, screw that, wearing a mask and likely taking my food to go.

Yeah...I'm a little bit conflicted about Disney. Wearing a mask all day in that type of heat...while being vaccinated was a tad bit annoying. I was keeping my distance from people as much as I could. I would have gladly worn my mask while indoors.

But at the same time...I think that having a strict mask mandate prevents "freedom fighters" from going to Disney and spreading the COVID like it's December 2020. Those that are going to Disney right now are those who are willing to comply to regulations, use common sense (wear masks while indoors), and get vaccinated...otherwise, they get kicked out of the park and waste upward of $1000.

 

[Saint_Ward]

Yeah...I'm a little bit conflicted about Disney. Wearing a mask all day in that type of heat...while being vaccinated was a tad bit annoying. I was keeping my distance from people as much as I could. I would have gladly worn my mask while indoors.

But at the same time...I think that having a strict mask mandate prevents "freedom fighters" from going to Disney and spreading the COVID like it's December 2020. Those that are going to Disney right now are those who are willing to comply to regulations, use common sense (wear masks while indoors), and get vaccinated.

It basically comes down to trust and verification.

Like I said before, Universal put out a survey to find out what people thought was best and most or least intrusive. They floated the idea of doing a rapid test before you could enter. Then you could go without a mask.

I think they'd consider vaccination status, but is the 'card' enough? I mean, it usually has been for schools, right? I did mine at a pharmacy, so I guess I could get a more official record, if needed.

Masks are just easier to enforce, I think.

And yes, Universal in June and August last year was brutal with a mask on. At least they have open rest areas to take them off. After doing that, I really don't complain about wearing it in the A/C for the most part. haha. It was like trial by combat.

 

[superchuck500]

listen, when you send your child to a school that costs $18k for pre-k thru 1 and $30k for 2-7, its about elitism. Belonging. There is a psychological aspect for the families that send kid(s) there. And , since they want to hold on to that "status", they will DEFEND that school, tooth and nail.

Because to do otherwise would be realizing that THEY made a mistake in judgement and thats simply not acceptable. So they will join this "fight" no matter how stupid it is, because they have to defend their status.

Its a win/win for the school.

I'm sure there are plenty of private schools in Florida that cost that much or more. I suspect the vast majority of families associated with it have similarly askew views.

 

[sammymvpknight]

It basically comes down to trust and verification.

Like I said before, Universal put out a survey to find out what people thought was best and most or least intrusive. They floated the idea of doing a rapid test before you could enter. Then you could go without a mask.

I think they'd consider vaccination status, but is the 'card' enough? I mean, it usually has been for schools, right? I did mine at a pharmacy, so I guess I could get a more official record, if needed.

Masks are just easier to enforce, I think.

And yes, Universal in June and August last year was brutal with a mask on. At least they have open rest areas to take them off. After doing that, I really don't complain about wearing it in the A/C for the most part. haha. It was like trial by combat.

That was a huge complaint about Disney is that there was literally nowhere to go to take your mask off. The only way you could do it was to stand stationary while sipping water or eating food. But then people would get on to you for eating too close to the merchandise. Being told by cast members to have my suffocating child to pull their mask up over their nose all day was a distraction. I would have gladly complied for a more rigorous entrance criteria if it meant I didn't need to worry about the masks.

We are getting close to getting to the point where everyone who wants a vaccine in our country can get it. Perhaps, that's the route that the theme parks will go when we reach that point...then they simply don't let you into the park unless you have a vaccination card, or you are unable to get the vaccine (children).

 

[sammymvpknight]

listen, when you send your child to a school that costs $18k for pre-k thru 1 and $30k for 2-7, its about elitism. Belonging. There is a psychological aspect for the families that send kid(s) there. And , since they want to hold on to that "status", they will DEFEND that school, tooth and nail.

Because to do otherwise would be realizing that THEY made a mistake in judgement and thats simply not acceptable. So they will join this "fight" no matter how stupid it is, because they have to defend their status.

Its a win/win for the school.

Here in Jacksonville...you are typically looking at about $13-25k for elementary and $16-30k for middle and high school in private schools. It's outrageous but the alternative is often to live in a very expensive area that has better public schools, send them to a bad public school, or win a magnet school lottery.

 

[bonnjer]

Ward posted it 3 posts above yours bonnjer.

Sorry, it was too early in the morning. My coffee hadn't kicked in, yet.

 

[efil4stnias]

Here in Jacksonville...you are typically looking at about $13-25k for elementary and $16-30k for middle and high school in private schools. It's outrageous but the alternative is often to live in a very expensive area that has better public schools, send them to a bad public school, or win a magnet school lottery.

I wasnt attempting to paint the entire staff/enrolled families as elitests. I am positive there are many who received that dumb letter and said exactly what we are all saying here. Some even contemplating a switch. But when you allow them to introduce meditation with crystals as part of curriculum and pay $30k to do so, you have made your choice.

im not up on the school situation in FL, but from the sounds of it, the private school "industry" has preyed off the public school concern to the tune of raking folks over the coals to provide their children with the same education in a seemingly "better" environment.

However, personal experience has taught me that it isnt always the case.

I just marvel at the psychology behind it all.

 

[sammymvpknight]

I wasnt attempting to paint the entire staff/enrolled families as elitests. I am positive there are many who received that dumb letter and said exactly what we are all saying here. Some even contemplating a switch. But when you allow them to introduce meditation with crystals as part of curriculum and pay $30k to do so, you have made your choice.

im not up on the school situation in FL, but from the sounds of it, the private school "industry" has preyed off the public school concern to the tune of raking folks over the coals to provide their children with the same education in a seemingly "better" environment.

However, personal experience has taught me that it isnt always the case.

I just marvel at the psychology behind it all.

There is definitely some level of elitism when it comes to private schools. But there are some areas of the country that are very challenging regarding schooling and parents have to choose between not so good options.

 

[DaveXA]

There is definitely some level of elitism when it comes to private schools. But there are some areas of the country that are very challenging regarding schooling and parents have to choose between not so good options.

Yeah, for example, if I lived in DC proper, I would not want my kids in the public schools there. First hand experience. But the private schools are ridiculously expensive.

We moved out to Virginia and the public schools are night and day different. My kids have been in public schools ever since. No regrets.

 

[saintmdterps]

listen, when you send your child to a school that costs $18k for pre-k thru 1 and $30k for 2-7, its about elitism. Belonging. There is a psychological aspect for the families that send kid(s) there. And , since they want to hold on to that "status", they will DEFEND that school, tooth and nail.

Because to do otherwise would be realizing that THEY made a mistake in judgement and thats simply not acceptable. So they will join this "fight" no matter how stupid it is, because they have to defend their status.

Its a win/win for the school.

In this area, all of the private schools were founded in 1971 as a direct response to busing. In other words they were founded by rich whites who didn't want their kids going to school with blacks. The diversity of these schools still reflects that mindset.

My daughter goes to one of these at 15K per year so my wife can do her job as a teacher. In Sept 2020 this was the only school open full-time and Abby knew she couldn't teach her students in the hybrid format and tend to our daughter as well.

The plan had been for Ella to continue at Abby's school through this year (2nd grade) then go to magnet through 5th grade. Thanks to Covid, we're probably going to eat the 60K over 4 years. 60K = a lot of other stuff in our house which isn't going to happen.

 

[saintmdterps]

Why does this kind of stuff always have to happen in FL?

The scary thing is that this place is one of Miami's "elite" schools with tuition starting at 25K/year