Groovepro
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I can see where you are coming from. You take right on the line of one side and I am taking the other side of the line, it seems. Nothing wrong with that and, as said, I can see how you would formulate your take, as well. I agree that he has the TOOLS...he is a giant block of POTENTIAL that hasn't shown it yet. My concern with Hill IS the injury, but I think, as in the Falcons game, he will run on called plays and when he doesn't have a pass option. Payton will have him cherry picked on runs, so wouldn't have as much injury chance, BUT, yes, he does still run hard on each play he does run which raises that concern. If he goes down for injury, which I think he might this season, Winston could be called on if he doesn't start. He could also end up being #3 by the end of the year. I agree that Hill also, to be successful, will be drawing on his threat to run more than a pocket passer...but that is his game...those 2 skills. If he is even a GOOD passer, the entire skillset is leveled up with his potential to help win games. I think he manages a CSP offense well if starts.Winston's INT's were high under Arians, but most QBs not name Brady had the same result their first year with him as their coach.
Winston has the tools to be great. At best Taysom can be really good. Winston is younger and has less injuries in his history. I don't believe Taysom is a true passer and runners don't always last long at this level. Especially those that run with force.
Winston just has a higher ceiling to me and stability with the organization and coaching staff is something he's never had. Didn't he have like 3 different head coaches and multiple offensive systems in 5 years in Tampa? Many wouldn't do well with all of that change.
I am on the other side of the coin with Winston's ceiling. I think he has pretty much hit it. Of course he has a great, live arm, but you need technique, accuracy and decision making. This is a video of all his INTS from 2015-2018, so seasons before Arians and they are in chronological order. He threw less in those years, yes BUT...It isn't the NUMBER of INTS that are concerning it is the situations and the INTS themselves that are concerning. You consistently see bad throws to wide open receivers with no pressure, thrown straight TO defenders and other options just sitting open as he tries to thread it into a blanketed WR who is not open at all...not even a 50/50 ball. I don't count "time running off the clock" hail mary throws either. It is his decision making. Most of his INT's are a receiver running a bad route or not knowing the offense, it is just a really really bad decision on top of bad ball placement. These are not scheme or errant playcalling, just flat out bad execution. You can analyze QB's INT's and see when just going for a 50/50 ball in the right situation, a WR falling down, a wrong route, etc. The film doesn't always show that, but you can usually have a good take away from it. A large % of his INT's are just perplexing.
2015-2018 in chronological order