Selling your home to developers (1 Viewer)

Then you are dealing with speculators and hold the leverage. They cant sell the "block" because they don't own the block.

So it's either what you want or they can sit on their 5/6th of a block, continue to watch their investment fall in value and think of all the other uses their money could have been put to instead of owning land they can't sell or develop.

In other words, you sit in the cat bird seat.

I think you are right. They need my land to package a good sale, and I don't think they want to be partners with me. lol. That's why they are acting so unprofessional, because they are "speculators", not corporate developers.

Thanks for helping me think this through people, just felt overwhelmed, and didn't know how to proceed. Now I have a game plan, instead of swinging in the dark.

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I think you are right. They need my land to package a good sale, and I don't think they want to be partners with me. lol. That's why they are acting so unprofessional, because they are "speculators", not corporate developers.

Thanks for helping me think this through people, just felt overwhelmed, and didn't know how to proceed. Now I have a game plan, instead of swinging in the dark.

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And let us know how it goes. Good luck to ya!
 
They will spend. In my area the bidding wars for houses exceed 100,000.00 over asking price. Inventory is low and some don't want to wait 6 months to a year to have one built.
As said above, u are in the catbird seat.
You got the juice now.

I bought a house in December of 2020.
As of now roughly 8 months later, I could sell for 100k more than I paid and get it.
....and probably a little more if a bidding war started. You know people are chomping at the bit when they offer more with no inspection. It's happening a lot lately. I follow the housing market all the time .
 
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If you feel like you are getting screwed and you need some inspiration, watch the documentary Tread.
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I seen some clips on that on YouTube, what a crazy man. He could of done so much better for himself. That dude was just bitter.

To be honest, I think we all wanted to rampage, at least once in our lives, but had the moral fortitude to realize, it's not the way to go. We can all learn from him, it ends in suicide, so learn from his mistakes.

Do you remember this one?




I let God handle my battles, HE does a much better job, than me.
 
They will spend. In my area the bidding wars for houses exceed 100,000.00 over asking price. Inventory is low and some don't want to wait 6 months to a year to have one built.
As said above, u are in the catbird seat.
You got the juice now.

I bought a house in December of 2020.
As of now roughly 8 months later, I could sell for 100k more than I paid and get it.
....and probably a little more if a bidding war started. You know people are chomping at the bit when they offer more with no inspection. It's happening a lot lately. I follow the housing market all the time .


You might have a point, but I just need these wise guys, to get a clue.

The smartest move will be to hold out, until they say, pick your price. I probably would of never put my home up for sale, if the gang of realtors weren't bombarding me with all the door knocking the last two years.

Then I list the home for sale, and they low ball me. I shouldn't complain, because this is a good problem to have I suppose. Maybe this is all part of the process, to figure out what the right price is?!?!
 
You might have a point, but I just need these wise guys, to get a clue.

The smartest move will be to hold out, until they say, pick your price. I probably would of never put my home up for sale, if the gang of realtors weren't bombarding me with all the door knocking the last two years.

Then I list the home for sale, and they low ball me. I shouldn't complain, because this is a good problem to have I suppose. Maybe this is all part of the process, to figure out what the right price is?!?!
Take this for what it's worth, because I have close to zero experience in this, but yes, I think it is a process to get to the 'right price', because I don't think in this situation there is a clear one.

Normally, if the price was too high, someone could go and buy another similar property instead, so there's a fairly clear indicator of what that price can be. But here, they don't need a similar property, they need that property.

So they obviously want to pay as little as possible, and will probably point to the market prices of similar properties, but the real minimum is whatever you say it is.

The theoretical maximum is whatever would make their investment/project unviable, or unattractive compared to other opportunities, but in practice I'd guess it might also be constrained by a reluctance to set a precedent of (from their perspective) overpaying. But there's a maximum they'd be willing to pay there, it's just a case of getting them to it.

I'd think the advice of working out your top price, based on replacement value, etc., and making it clear what that is, is probably the best way of getting there. If you want someone to do something, make it the easiest thing for them to do. They're not going to make a good offer if they think you might eventually accept a lowball offer. So if you can make it clear that you won't, and that your price is that price, the easiest thing for them to do becomes to make you that offer.

But again, I know nothing.
 
Take this for what it's worth, because I have close to zero experience in this, but yes, I think it is a process to get to the 'right price', because I don't think in this situation there is a clear one.

Normally, if the price was too high, someone could go and buy another similar property instead, so there's a fairly clear indicator of what that price can be. But here, they don't need a similar property, they need that property.

So they obviously want to pay as little as possible, and will probably point to the market prices of similar properties, but the real minimum is whatever you say it is.

The theoretical maximum is whatever would make their investment/project unviable, or unattractive compared to other opportunities, but in practice I'd guess it might also be constrained by a reluctance to set a precedent of (from their perspective) overpaying. But there's a maximum they'd be willing to pay there, it's just a case of getting them to it.

I'd think the advice of working out your top price, based on replacement value, etc., and making it clear what that is, is probably the best way of getting there. If you want someone to do something, make it the easiest thing for them to do. They're not going to make a good offer if they think you might eventually accept a lowball offer. So if you can make it clear that you won't, and that your price is that price, the easiest thing for them to do becomes to make you that offer.

But again, I know nothing.

For someone with "zero experience", that was one heck of a solid answer. I have been thinking about this stuff for like a year now and that's pretty much it.

Well, I figured out my price, so it's a win/win. Not gonna try to break their bank, but maybe just chip it. Porky should be able to handle it. I figure my price is between my rock bottom and what I want. It's like an honest compromise, since it's obvious on the other side doesn't want to do business in a normal fashion.

I'm basically gonna ask for a house and a small 401k savings, because I always cashed out my 401k every time I quit my job. So, there are basically giving me a catch up contribution....A rather large one.. haha

I figure since the market is crazy and inflation is nuts, I need a little bit of insurance, just in case I get stuck in a bidding war. Don't want to be edged of owning a home.

This way I'm being reasonable and being a good partner in business. Plus, I have a guilty conscious, and won't be able to sleep at night, if I asked for to much.
 
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I have no intentions of moving. If someone offered me "market price" for my home I would laugh at them. Why would I sell my home for market price and then go buy another one at market price. This doesn't improve your situation at all. Except now you must find a new home (in a very tight market), move, pay for appraisals, lending fees etc. You need to put a price tag on all that extra work that you will have to deal with. It depends of the value of the home. Personally, my asking price would be double the homes value and maybe negotiate down a little.
 
People buy property for a few reasons.
The biggest one is return on investment.
If the shoe was on the other foot, they would ask top dollar from you . There are no friendships when negotiating real estate. Agents right now are working 7 days a week....why?....MONEY!
Never settle, you will always regret it
 
I'm basically gonna ask for a house and a small 401k savings, because I always cashed out my 401k every time I quit my job. So, there are basically giving me a catch up contribution....A rather large one.. haha

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I thought i was the only one who did that lol.. if i had never cashed out any of my 401ks over the years, I’d be pretty close to retirement now.. oh well, you do what you need to do at the time, i suppose.
 
I have no intentions of moving. If someone offered me "market price" for my home I would laugh at them. Why would I sell my home for market price and then go buy another one at market price. This doesn't improve your situation at all. Except now you must find a new home (in a very tight market), move, pay for appraisals, lending fees etc. You need to put a price tag on all that extra work that you will have to deal with. It depends of the value of the home. Personally, my asking price would be double the homes value and maybe negotiate down a little.
People buy property for a few reasons.
The biggest one is return on investment.
If the shoe was on the other foot, they would ask top dollar from you . There are no friendships when negotiating real estate. Agents right now are working 7 days a week....why?....MONEY!
Never settle, you will always regret it


You guys are right, this is a learning experience for me. Maybe I just don't really understand the situation. Maybe it's hard to believe this is happening. I'm starting to think my real estate agent can't be trusted, since I pretty much have to think of all the angles, or maybe he is to busy with other clients.

At this point, I think the negotiations have gone to recess, since I figured out that I was being shorted. It's like I have to figure out what they are trying to pull, call it on them, than they come up with a new scam or something. It beats clocking in at job, but it's definitely unfamiliar territory.
 
Quick update: The realtor/investor family knocked on my door yesterday, so opened the door with my phone on record, and that was a welcomed surprise for them. :) This is after my realtor told them to stay away from me, and threatened them with calling the police.

I was pretty rude, gave them about 15 seconds of my time, and made it clear that I don't want you on my property. Will have to send an e-mail to his employer, so there is no confusion. You think after two years, they would have a new game.

The last offer they gave me was about 3 months ago, I'm thinking time is almost right for them to start writing some good offers. They probably have about 5 million sunk into the properties around me, so they probably want to get this deal done soon.
 
I have no intentions of moving. If someone offered me "market price" for my home I would laugh at them. Why would I sell my home for market price and then go buy another one at market price. This doesn't improve your situation at all. Except now you must find a new home (in a very tight market), move, pay for appraisals, lending fees etc.



There is an exception, and it’s what people in California have been doing for decades, except thx to pandemic, it’s happening all over the U.S. now.. it’s called ‘geographic arbitrage’.. so basically, if youre able, if you have a remote job, are retired, etc- you cash out of whatever area you’re in, sell your home for top dollar then move to a lower cost of living area.. like i said, super common in CA if youve built equity in ur home, sell it for say $1.5 million (average rice in many areas of CA), then move to Oregon or Texas, buy a nice home for $600k an invest/live off the rest.
 

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