How did I miss this story? (Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia)[MERGED] (2 Viewers)

[guidomerkinsrules]

No it isn't. It was the only post trial interview available from KR at the time. An interview that went against everything Tucker and his audience would have expected and it was most certainly worthy of being posted in the thread about KR.

Your assumption that talking about this interview means those same people hold the same views that Tucker posits , damn tribalism.


"Think for yourself, question authority. Think for yourself, question authority. Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself, you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness; chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself. Think for yourself, question authority. Think for yourself, question authority. Think for yourself, question authority. Think for yourself... Think for yourself... Order... Regulations... Rules... Think for yourself, question authority. Order... Regulations... Rules... Comfort us..."

Thinking for oneself and questioning authority includes understanding that Tucker Carlson spews white nationalist **** daily
He interviews a hero of white nationalists who armed and deputized himself to go police a BLM protest
But in this interview he says he backs BLM
And somehow that square peg slides moistly into the round hole
Think for yourself
Question authority

 

[kcirdor]

Thinking for oneself and questioning authority includes understanding that Tucker Carlson spews white nationalist **** daily
He interviews a hero of white nationalists who armed and deputized himself to go police a BLM protest
But in this interview he says he backs BLM
And somehow that square peg slides moistly into the round hole
Think for yourself
Question authority

Your dismissed the discussion immediately this morning without a second thought. Dont act like you think for yourself. There is absolutely zero nuance to your POV.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Your dismissed the discussion immediately this morning without a second thought. Dont act like you think for yourself. There is absolutely zero nuance to your POV.

The country has about a century of catch-up before ‘nuance’ is anything but a laughable rhetorical fallacy
To be clear there is no nuance until there is equity

 

[Madmarsha]

It's crazy to think that if these idiots hadn't have filmed their own crime, they'd probably be free right now, and maybe not even charged.

That's what's so rich about the karma in this. Show the video. "Case closed". The phrase is "If you see something, SAY something", not "DO something".

 

[kcirdor]

The country has about a century of catch-up before ‘nuance’ is anything but a laughable rhetorical fallacy
To be clear there is no nuance until there is equity

Got it. You will remain an overly emotional tribalist for eternity. Tribalism is the new racism. ZERO NUANCE? WOW. What a religious zealot. But I'm not gonna wait till Lent for you to go away.

Edit: That's a shame. Ignoring a member still shows when they post. Edit2: never mind, leaving the page and coming back fixed that.

 

[kewee]

Man, these exhausting debates really brighten my day.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

But you posted a Tucker Carlson interview- that’s at least a tacit endorsement

I watched the Tucker interview and have brought it up on the thread and I like pond scum more than him (and I think it's smarter). I watched to hear Rittenhouse in his own words, not Tucker "Replacement Theory" Carlson.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I guess I just learned my lesson about thinking for myself and questioning authority

 

[DaveXA]

All I see is a lot of talking past each other. Not really a meeting of the minds as much as saying words and not taking each other seriously. So, we tend to leave this type of discussion unconvinced that anyone has much meaningful to say.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I watched the Tucker interview and have brought it up on the thread and I like pond scum more than him (and I think it's smarter). I watched to hear Rittenhouse in his own words, not Tucker "Replacement Theory" Carlson.

Fair enough- I still hold to McLuan’s ‘the medium is the message’
Any words spoken on a TC show are within the parentheses of TC

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

All I see is a lot of talking past each other. Not really a meeting of the minds as much as saying words and not taking each other seriously. So, we tend to leave this type of discussion unconvinced that anyone has much meaningful to say.

What? No!
He quit. I won.
The record must reflect that

 

[DaveXA]

Fair enough- I still hold to McLuan’s ‘the medium is the message’
Any words spoken on a TC show are within the parentheses of TC

I don't really buy this. News media quotes people from rival outlets all the time. That's no endorsement of rival outlet or the medium. The problem is you seem to be unable to separate the guest from that medium. I don't really understand wearing blinders when it's not really needed.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I don't really buy this. News media quotes people from rival outlets all the time. That's no endorsement of rival outlet or the medium. The problem is you seem to be unable to separate the guest from that medium. I don't really understand wearing blinders when it's not really needed.

I’d argue corrective lenses not blinders
But that’s a major premise of media literacy, there is no ‘raw data’ in broadcast media - everything is rehearsed, scripted, edited, et al
I’m not saying there is no value to what you see/hear, but it must be understood that’s it’s all engineered

The great benefit of Jon Stewart (and Colbert and Oliver, et al) is they’re at least honest about their dishonesty
My responsibility to myself would be wearing the same corrective lenses if I was watching Rachel Maddow interview a metoo survivor or the like

But as far as Carlson, when Jon Stewart spanked him on his own show decades ago; JS was spot on and TC has done nothing but get substantially worse - he provides no value to the national discourse, but does poison

 

[V Chip]

Fair enough- I still hold to McLuan’s ‘the medium is the message’
Any words spoken on a TC show are within the parentheses of TC

I get both sides of this particular point (oh sheet I said “both sides”).

On the one hand, if you get your message out even to those not really willing to hear it, it’s still a potentially good thing.

But there are some media personalities and outlets that should be avoided because of the inevitable muck that will dilute or even make the point moot.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I get both sides of this particular point (oh sheet I said “both sides”).

On the one hand, if you get your message out even to those not really willing to hear it, it’s still a potentially good thing.

But there are some media personalities and outlets that should be avoided because of the inevitable muck that will dilute or even make the point moot.

Sure
And to be more ‘nuanced’ I was saying why I would put no value on anything coming from a TC interview- not that no one else could find said value