Another police shooting - this time in Wisconsin... (5 Viewers)

I don’t think a cosplay soldier of fortune, a pedophile, and a man that beats women were looking for a tea party at 2am.

Was it uncovered during the trial as to who lit the dumpster on fire? Wasn’t that the starting point in all of this?

Bottom line is they were all messing around, and they all found out.

Who said that they were? I don't know. And finally..maybe?

I'd personally like to stick to discussing my original point.
 
I don’t think a cosplay soldier of fortune, a pedophile, and a man that beats women were looking for a tea party at 2am.
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moving the goalpost
EVEN IF kr knew precisely that these ‘bad guys’ would be there, his actions would still be vigilantism
But he did not know - and continuing to bring up the ‘bad guys’’ rap sheet is both completely superfluous and rhetorical ****
 
Maybe I misspoke as to my point. I'll rephrase:

You really do not think that traveling somewhere to brandish a weapon around a large group of people is looking for trouble?
Of course it is. Whether it's across the street or another state doesn't really matter. It's looking for trouble either way.

Saying he's from another state just feels like a regurgitated talking point.
 
moving the goalpost
EVEN IF kr knew precisely that these ‘bad guys’ would be there, his actions would still be vigilantism
But he did not know - and continuing to bring up the ‘bad guys’’ rap sheet is both completely superfluous and rhetorical ****
I don’t know their names (and in another thread I was told to say the name of a criminal gives them notoriety), so I am just going to refer to them by what they did. Plus they were a pedophile and a man that beats women, so screw um (if you want to defend them have at it).

Vigilante, soldier of fortune, either way, he messed around and he found out.
 
Who said that they were? I don't know. And finally..maybe?

I'd personally like to stick to discussing my original point.
Your point wants to look at this from a racial angle, the other person was looking at this from a media distrust angle, you both have a case for your arguments.

At the end of the day, everyone learned don’t bring piss to a sheet fight. When One guy uses a gun as a weapon, and the other decides to use a skateboard, I’m putting the good money on the guy with the gun.
 
I don’t know their names (and in another thread I was told to say the name of a criminal gives them notoriety), so I am just going to refer to them by what they did. Plus they were a pedophile and a man that beats women, so screw um (if you want to defend them have at it).

Vigilante, soldier of fortune, either way, he messed around and he found out.
Focusing on the victim/bad guys is a rhetorical feint to try to take the focus off of KR’s bad intentions
Which seems obvious
Continuing to do it seems to betray an understanding that the KR defender feels the ground shifting underfoot
 
Wait, people here actually think the Rittenhouse decision demonstrates injustice in our system?
 
Focusing on the victim/bad guys is a rhetorical feint to try to take the focus off of KR’s bad intentions
Which seems obvious
Continuing to do it seems to betray an understanding that the KR defender feels the ground shifting underfoot
He didn’t shoot those people because of their gorilla marketing tactics.

Anyway, this is tiring. Neither of us are going to change each others minds. We can agree everyone messed up and found out, and let’s agree to disagree on everything else.
 
He didn’t shoot those people because of their gorilla marketing tactics.

Anyway, this is tiring. Neither of us are going to change each others minds. We can agree everyone messed up and found out, and let’s agree to disagree on everything else.
Except that we’re not at a he said/he said impasse
I feel that the self-defense narrative should start when he picked up the rifle - others think it should start when the eventual victim lunged at him
— those are differences of opinion

My charge is that you are using faulty rhetoric when you bring in the bad guys history
A. He did not know the bad guys so it makes no matter in terms of his intention/culpability who they were
B. He is not police, judge, jury, executioner - he is none of those things. So he has no responsibility as to their criminality

If you want to bow out cool, that’s your choice - just appreciate that we are discussing rhetoric not opinion
 
Except that we’re not at a he said/he said impasse
I feel that the self-defense narrative should start when he picked up the rifle - others think it should start when the eventual victim lunged at him
— those are differences of opinion

My charge is that you are using faulty rhetoric when you bring in the bad guys history
A. He did not know the bad guys so it makes no matter in terms of his intention/culpability who they were
B. He is not police, judge, jury, executioner - he is none of those things. So he has no responsibility as to their criminality

If you want to bow out cool, that’s your choice - just appreciate that we are discussing rhetoric not opinion
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So after all we've been though together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for. Best wishes, Helen
 
Hey just wanted to take a minute to wish you and your family a very Happy Thanksgiving and most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on.
So after all we've been though together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for. Best wishes, Helen
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparklemotion
 
Wha?
The only thing remotely similar is that wypipo decided to arm up and go hunt
We’ve already lost the narrative, but the story of Georgia is that the apparatus tried to protect an execution in broad daylight- they would have been free today except for the pressure of the family and a fortuitous leak of video

And it was an attempted insurrection- full stop
Both cases were self defense claims one was valid one was not they both were determined by who pursued and who was chased

If anyone believes there was any attempt to overthrow the gov obviously is media drunk

The police were literally talking with and present in every area the protesters were , the whole event was over in a matter of hours and Congress continued to meet - the lady who was shot and killed by the cop was literally talking to two police officers just before she was killed and as media does they continued the lie about how the officer died in an attempt to make the whole thing into something and to justify the cop shooting
 
Both cases were self defense claims one was valid one was not they both were determined by who pursued and who was chased

If anyone believes there was any attempt to overthrow the gov obviously is media drunk

The police were literally talking with and present in every area the protesters were , the whole event was over in a matter of hours and Congress continued to meet - the lady who was shot and killed by the cop was literally talking to two police officers just before she was killed and as media does they continued the lie about how the officer died in an attempt to make the whole thing into something and to justify the cop shooting
We have always been at war with Eastasia
 
Both cases were self defense claims one was valid one was not they both were determined by who pursued and who was chased

If anyone believes there was any attempt to overthrow the gov obviously is media drunk

The police were literally talking with and present in every area the protesters were , the whole event was over in a matter of hours and Congress continued to meet - the lady who was shot and killed by the cop was literally talking to two police officers just before she was killed and as media does they continued the lie about how the officer died in an attempt to make the whole thing into something and to justify the cop shooting

Well this changes everything (not), thanks so much for this information, I feel so much better (not)...is above a joke of some kind?
 

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