Another school shooting in MI... (2 Viewers)

[Dago]

Prosecutor playing to the crowd. The parents did not violate any laws. Were they negligent, yes. But we can't pit people in prison because we don't like their actions. The school should be responsible if that article is true, meaning they said the kid was no danger.

I wouldn't necessarily say that either. How could they be legally accountable? Mental health is not an exact science

Edit: I suppose it could be argued that they took responsibility with that diagnosis

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Prosecutor playing to the crowd. The parents did not violate any laws. Were they negligent, yes. But we can't pit people in prison because we don't like their actions. The school should be responsible if that article is true, meaning they said the kid was no danger.

Is that Fact or opinion?

There are many instances where parents are held legally accountable for their childerens actions.
But that is why there will be a trial. But i suspect they will probably looking for a plea deal so they don't go to jail for a long time.

 

[Semper]

Is that Fact or opinion?

There are many instances where parents are held legally accountable for their childerens actions.
But that is why there will be a trial. But i suspect they will probably looking for a plea deal so they don't go to jail for a long time.

I searched their firearm laws and did not find anything that required them to keep their guns locked if a child was present. IL, UT, FL and WI all have laws that say specifically if a child obtains a firearm and uses it to I jure someone it is a felony. I did not see that in Michigan's law.

 

[Semper]

I will add that maybe it is not posted on the conceal and carry sites I frequent but I did try. If I am wrong I apologize.

Is that Fact or opinion?

There are many instances where parents are held legally accountable for their childerens actions.
But that is why there will be a trial. But i suspect they will probably looking for a plea deal so they don't go to jail for a long time.

 

[brandon8283]

Were they negligent, yes.

Criminal negligent homicide (more commonly referred to as “Involuntary Manslaughter” and also referred to as “Negligent Homicide”) is a crime of causing another's death through criminal negligence. Criminal negligence involves more than ordinary carelessness, inattention or mistake in judgment.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Is there anything about giving ownership of a gun to someone who is not legally able to own a firearm? (who then commits murder)
It seems like this is not a simple 'he took the gun from our room or the kitchen table' type of situation. This is more about them buying the gun for him as a gift. There is defenitly a grey line there. But like i said, that is why there will be a trial. All this will have to be proven in the court of law.

 

[Semper]

I am wrong. I just found it. My bad.

 

[Dago]

I am wrong. I just found it. My bad.

Good find. Sounds like the charges are sound then

 

[Tapxe]

Good find. Sounds like the charges are sound then

IDK, so much different info out there. This article says there's no law that they must be locked but the atty is saying it was locked as well.

EXPLAINER: How unusual is it to charge parents in school shooting?

Guns used in U.S. school shootings have often come from the homes of young perpetrators, but parents are rarely charged for the violence that occurs, experts say.

www.pbs.org

With some very limited exceptions, minors in Michigan aren’t allowed to possess guns. But there is no Michigan law that requires owners to keep guns locked away from kids.

“So many states do. There’s 23 states plus Washington, D.C., that have some form of a secure storage law,” Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said.

During the court appearance Saturday, attorney Shannon Smith said the gun used was locked, but she did not say how their son got it.

 

[Dago]

IDK, so much different info out there. This article says there's no law that they must be locked but the atty is saying it was locked as well.

EXPLAINER: How unusual is it to charge parents in school shooting?

Guns used in U.S. school shootings have often come from the homes of young perpetrators, but parents are rarely charged for the violence that occurs, experts say.

www.pbs.org

Fine...opinion suspended pending more info lol

 

[sfidc3]

I am wrong. I just found it. My bad.

Great find. As for the lock, who cares if the gun was locked, if their son had access to the gun regardless I don't see how this is an issue....

 

[Heathen Saint]

You think Americans care about this teen killing other kids? You honestly think we collectively give a damn about any of those children that lost their life? They may succeed in naming a stadium after the one kid or creating memorials to the others, but we're going to do just as much about their deaths as we do the killings in the Middle East. That is to say, nothing to prevent it from happening again. There's no collective real anger about either of these events.

Exactly. Thoughts and Prayers. Likely none of either if it’s in some middle eastern country. On to the next distraction. America.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

You think Americans care about this teen killing other kids? You honestly think we collectively give a damn about any of those children that lost their life? They may succeed in naming a stadium after the one kid or creating memorials to the others, but we're going to do just as much about their deaths as we do the killings in the Middle East. That is to say, nothing to prevent it from happening again. There's no collective real anger about either of these events.

Church

 

[Tapxe]

100M lawsuit just filed. Article says there's a second one planned. Seems excessive, but until it's more costly to ignore the problem...

Oxford shooting victim's family files $100 million suit, saying the school failed her

The lawsuit says "multiple concerned parents" alerted school officials to violent threats two weeks before the shooting at the Michigan high school, only to be told there was no reason to worry.

www.npr.org