In defense of Winston ( gulp ) (2 Viewers)

[limeyjohn]

First let me ask a question, Olave was brilliant yesterday, but how is it fair to give none of the credit to Winston?, he did make some excellent throws to him
Went for over 350 yards, made two 3rd downs with good throws that were called back by dubious flags
Got us in to scoring position twice but we missed what should have been easy field goals, another drive killed by a fumble, another by 2 false starts
All in all l thought he played okay yesterday, much better than the previous 2 weeks
Still relieved we did not get Watson, or even Wilson, either one would have killed our future , even glad we did not get Jimmy G, considering our options at the start of the season l still think we made the right and only choice
As he starts to get healthier l do think he will get better, also tough for any quarterback to start with 3 division games in a row
Am not ready to throw in the towel just yet

 

[No2DC]

Nice try and good luck.

 

[Pa.Saint]

If the guy is hurt that bad rest him!!!, like Bobby Herbert said, "he looks confused out there"

 

[limeyjohn]

If the guy is hurt that bad rest him!!!, like Bobby Herbert said, "he looks confused out there"

I think that could be his natural look, people always say l look P'Oed off, even when l am happy

 

[football]

I don't know. Watching that game, he did come up with some decent drives but some of those drives....gosh. He lacks serious pocket awareness. Take a sacks in the red zones. He is still slow in reacting. I just don't understand how one drive can looks so good but the next 3 or 4 looked horrible. I don't know who is more to blame....Winston or the coaching staff. Until something changes, the key to stopping the Saints offense is blitzing and bringing pressure. This team cannot continue to have 3 bad quarters of football.

 

[No2DC]

If the guy is hurt that bad rest him!!!, like Bobby Herbert said, "he looks confused out there"

Bobby talks confused, so it is what it is.

 

[saintsmarchin]

It's in Winston's eyes yo.

You could see them from a mile away so you know where the ball is gonna go.

 

[Big_L]

First let me ask a question, Olave was brilliant yesterday, but how is it fair to give none of the credit to Winston?, he did make some excellent throws to him
Went for over 350 yards, made two 3rd downs with good throws that were called back by dubious flags
Got us in to scoring position twice but we missed what should have been easy field goals, another drive killed by a fumble, another by 2 false starts
All in all l thought he played okay yesterday, much better than the previous 2 weeks
Still relieved we did not get Watson, or even Wilson, either one would have killed our future , even glad we did not get Jimmy G, considering our options at the start of the season l still think we made the right and only choice
As he starts to get healthier l do think he will get better, also tough for any quarterback to start with 3 division games in a row
Am not ready to throw in the towel just yet

Yardage means nothing . . . Or so I’ve been told on here.
It doesn’t matter what Winston does at this point.

 

[fishing4food]

BLUF: Bottom line up front: Winston can't manage the offense

There are way to many solid players in this system for the offense to perform this poorly every game. Saints could easily be 0-3 at the moment.
1. Can't sustain a drive.
2. Too many 3 and outs
3. Winston struggles with reading the defense

Is this offense too complicated for him? He's been in the league long enough so the excuses are running out. It's time to raise the red flag on this QB project.

 

[Saint Greg]

People have been twisting Jameis stats all off-season. We’re actually watching the games now. Maybe he’ll be better after his injuries heal. I don’t know. But right now we aren’t win unless he has perfect protection and perfectly open receivers every time he drops back.

 

[Devildog]

I have to believe that it's due to injuries. While not exactly lighting it up at the beginning of last year, he was playing the best football of his career with a low INT rate until he got hurt. We also had guys off the street at receiver. We are missing Payton more than anyone realized. All I see is undisciplined play from the offense when that was never the issue before. PC is not the answer.

 

[Kendall.boyer45]

I don't know. Watching that game, he did come up with some decent drives but some of those drives....gosh. He lacks serious pocket awareness. Take a sacks in the red zones. He is still slow in reacting. I just don't understand how one drive can looks so good but the next 3 or 4 looked horrible. I don't know who is more to blame....Winston or the coaching staff. Until something changes, the key to stopping the Saints offense is blitzing and bringing pressure. This team cannot continue to have 3 bad quarters of football.

I can tell you one reason why one drive can look good and another not.

Yesterday Winston clearly showed what he can do with actual time when the Oline blocks. When they blocked for him he was able to deliver actual good throws both short and deeper and drive down the field.

I put the oline issues a lot on play calling as well though. Literally giving the linemen and winston NO HELP when the blitz is coming because pete calls nothing to help mititgate these blitzes...so we just keep getting blitz EVERY week because the play call is not even aiding in preventing these blitzers as well as the line just not blocking well. Winston has been solid with what he is given in my opinion. He is not void of blame but his good things are clouded by the bad due to him having a defender in his face within 2 seconds almost every other play.

 

[DavidM]

I'm still very much a fan of his and if he can get healthy and comfortable, and have a successful run as the QB of this franchise for the next decade, I'd be happy with that outcome.

He has talent and ability and can throw some beautiful passes, but he's struggling. Whether it's injury, or adapting to the coaching and personnel changes, or playing instinctively, or whatever is going on, there's just not enough consistency and point-producing productivity coming from the QB position. It's not all on him - others are making mistakes - but the successful teams get a level of play out of the position that lifts the entire offense. He's not providing that effect right now.

 

[Saint Greg]

Yardage means nothing . . . Or so I’ve been told on here.
It doesn’t matter what Winston does at this point.

I’d change that to empty yardage doesn’t matter. Garbage yards don’t matter.

 

[dtc]

I don't know. Watching that game, he did come up with some decent drives but some of those drives....gosh. He lacks serious pocket awareness. Take a sacks in the red zones. He is still slow in reacting. I just don't understand how one drive can looks so good but the next 3 or 4 looked horrible. I don't know who is more to blame....Winston or the coaching staff. Until something changes, the key to stopping the Saints offense is blitzing and bringing pressure. This team cannot continue to have 3 bad quarters of football.

The key to stopping the Saints offense is to allow the Saints to miss blocks, commit stupid penalties, fumble while in scoring position, miss field goals and leave their QB to be killed.