Scouts Inc Rankings (1 Viewer)

[yankmccobb76]

Thought I would post this to some who may not have seen the Scout's Inc rankings of the potential draftees. I'll just list a few from the positions we are in dire need of.

MLB:

Dan Connor ILB 6'3" 228 PENN STATE 93
Curtis Lofton ILB 6'1" 240 OKLAHOMA 89
Jerod Mayo ILB 6'2" 233 TENNESSEE 80
Tavares Gooden ILB 6'2" 231 MIAMI (FLA.) 78
Beau Bell ILB 6'1" 249 NEVADA LAS VEGAS 75
Philip Wheeler ILB 6'1" 234 GEORGIA TECH 71
Vince Hall ILB 5'11" 236 VIRGINIA TECH 68
Jonathan Goff ILB 6'2" 236 VANDERBILT 60
Jo-Lonn Dunbar ILB 6'0" 225 BOSTON COLLEGE
Spencer Larsen ILB 6'1" 239 ARIZONA 52

DT:

Glenn Dorsey DT 6'1" 310 LSU 98
Sedrick Ellis DT 6'1" 305 USC 97
Kentwan Balmer DT 6'4" 297 NORTH CAROLINA 93
Pat Sims DT 6'3" 310 AUBURN 91
Marcus Harrison DT 6'2" 303 ARKANSAS 82
Dre Moore DT 6'3" 305 MARYLAND 76
Red Bryant DT 6'4" 325 TEXAS A&M 71
DeMario Pressley DT 6'4" 290 NORTH CAROLINA ST 69
Trevor Laws DT 6'0" 300 NOTRE DAME 68
Andre Fluellen DT 6'1" 279 FLORIDA STATE 65


CB:

Mike Jenkins CB 6'0" 200 SOUTH FLORIDA 95
Aqib Talib CB 6'1" 201 KANSAS 94
Leodis McKelvin CB 5'10" 186 TROY UNIVERSITY 90
Brandon Flowers CB 5'1" 192 VIRGINIA TECH 85
Reggie Smith CB 6'1" 196 OKLAHOMA 84
Antoine Cason CB 6'0" 190 ARIZONA 82
Patrick Lee CB 5'11" 197 AUBURN 81
Tracy Porter CB 5'10" 181 INDIANA 80
Jack Ikegwuonu CB 6'2" 204 WISCONSIN 78
Charles Godfrey CB 5'11" 204 IOWA 76
Justin King CB 6'1" 190 PENN STATE 73
Trae Williams CB 5'10" 185 SOUTH FLORIDA 71
Jack Williams CB 5'8" 181 KENT 70

The numbers behind their school indicates their rating in a 1-100 scale.
If anyone wants the "expert's take" on a particular player I can post it as well, not all have been done yet though.

If there is a problem with this Mod's please let me know.

 

[fr3sh]

Nice post, and thanks.

Anyone think this can happen?

R1 - Dan Connor
R2 - Brandon Flowers/Antoine Cason
R3 - Trevor Laws
R4 - DJ Hall

 

[zorro37]

Is Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie considered to not be among the top 12 or 13 CBs?
:dunno:

 

[yankmccobb76]

Is Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie considered to not be among the top 12 or 13 CBs?
:dunno:

He is actually the 15th ranked corner with a rating of 67.

Here is his profile:

Strengths: Shows adequate top-end speed and can use long arms to knock passes away when caught in a trail position. Gets adequate knee bend in backpedal and shows adequate closing speed coming forward. Reads quarterback's eyes, aggressive and jumps routes. Is tall and can compete for jump balls. Has good ball skills, is a playmaker in coverage and flashes the ability to pick up big chunks of yards after turnovers. Plays with a good motor and makes plays in pursuit. Wraps up upon contact and is a reliable open field tackler. Blocked a kick last year and can contribute on special teams.

Weaknesses: Played at a small school and there is some concern about ability to make the jump to the NFL. Doesn't have great bulk for frame and bigger receivers will have some success shielding him from the ball. Takes too long to open hips when forced to turn and run and lacks the second gear to recover once caught out of position. Hasn't great upper body strength, doesn't always use hands well and can take too long to shed blocks.

Overall: Rogers-Cromartie has played in 33 games over the last three seasons (2004-'06) recording 121 total tackles, six tackles for loss, nine interceptions, and 14 pass breakups. Rodgers-Cromartie is a playmaker who possesses a good blend of height and burst. However, he is a small-school prospect and he doesn't have elite size or speed raising concerns about his ability to compete at the NFL level.

 

[bergeaux]

Is Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie considered to not be among the top 12 or 13 CBs?
:dunno:

I was going to ask that. Where is DRC? He was the stud of the Senior Bowl and is rising to early second round status (maybe first) and he's not on their list of CBs?

 

[CHI-TOWNSAINT]

I was going to ask that. Where is DRC? He was the stud of the Senior Bowl and is rising to early second round status (maybe first) and he's not on their list of CBs?

Devery Henderson had a great Senior Bowl week too to improve his stock. You have to be careful t put too much stock in any 1 game.

 

[Scotlandsaint]

Mike Mayock's rankings as pretty interesting.He doesn't even have McFadden as his #1 RB.


http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jses...0d5d80406b71&template=with-video&confirm=true

 

[Forest]

Can you please post OLB and OT and S?

 

[Sullivan97]

Conners 93 out of 100? thats a bit much seeing as Dorsey is 98. I'd hardly agree that Conners is an effective LB as Dorsey is DT.

Could you list Sed Ellis and Dorsey's scouting reports? cheers.

 

[yankmccobb76]

As requested, boy they sure do think highly of K. Phillips compared to his competition, eh?

OT:

Jake Long OT 6'7" 309 MICHIGAN 97
Ryan Clady OT 6'6" 317 BOISE STATE 96
Sam Baker OT 6'5" 312 USC 95
Jeffrey Otah OT 6'6" 339 PITTSBURGH 91
Chris Williams OT 6'6" 315 VANDERBILT 90
Anthony Collins OT 6'6" 310 KANSAS 86
Gosder Cherilus OT 6'6" 312 BOSTON COLLEGE 82
Carl Nicks OT 6'4" 328 NEBRASKA 79
Oniel Cousins OT 6'4" 300 UTEP 74
Duane Brown OT 6'4" 300 VIRGINIA TECH 73
Tony Hills OT 6'5" 303 TEXAS 66
Heath Benedict OT 6'5" 332 NEWBERRY 61

OLB:

Keith Rivers OLB 6'2" 236 USC 94
Ali Highsmith OLB 6'0" 221 LSU 92
Xavier Adibi OLB 6'1" 219 VIRGINIA TECH 87
Erin Henderson OLB 6'3" 245 MARYLAND 82
Bruce Davis OLB 6'2" 231 UCLA 78
Jordon Dizon OLB 5'11" 221 COLORADO 75
Shawn Crable OLB 6'4" 243 MICHIGAN 72
Geno Hayes OLB 6'2" 223 FLORIDA STATE 70
Wesley Woodyard OLB 6'0" 214 KENTUCKY 67
Robert James OLB 5'10" 227 ARIZONA STATE 64
Ezra Butler OLB 6'2" 245 NEVADA 60
Alvin Bowen OLB 6'2" 219 IOWA STATE 56
Marcus Howard OLB 6'2" 247 GEORGIA 53

S:

Kenny Phillips S 6'1" 203 MIAMI (FLA.) 95
Simeon Castille S 6'0" 190 ALABAMA 73
Patrick Chung S 5'11" 212 OREGON 72
Thomas DeCoud S 6'1" 196 CALIFORNIA 69
Marcus Griffin S 5'11" 200 TEXAS 68
Dejuan Morgan S 6'1" 203 NORTH CAROLINA ST 66
Tyrell Johnson S 5'11" 196 ARKANSAS STATE 65
Jamar Adams S 6'2" 210 MICHIGAN 62
Jonathan Hefney S 5'8" 180 TENNESSEE 59
Craig Steltz S 6'1" 210 LSU 57
Jamie Silva S 5'11" 204 BOSTON COLLEGE 54

 

[yankmccobb76]

Glenn Dorsey
DT | (6'1", 310, 5.1) | LSU

Scouts Grade: 98
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Strengths: A one-gap defensive tackle prospect with very good quickness. Anticipates the snap well, explodes out of his stance and generally will win one-on-one battles with his initial quickness. He has the burst to get through the line of scrimmage and consistently penetrate. Displays good upper-body power and the ability to knock linemen back on their heels with initial pop. He shows good closing burst to the passer and ball carrier. Does a fine job of locating the ball once he's in the backfield and flashes good change-of-direction skills for his position. Shows a good spin move when attempting to fight off the double team. Plays with an excellent motor and should only improve with more game experience.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal bulk. Does not display the base to anchor versus bigger interior offensive linemen when teams run at him. He needs to improve his lower-body strength and do a better job of splitting the double-team. Must also learn to use his hands better in order to get off of blocks quicker. He needs to be on the move to be effective.

Overall: During his first three seasons (2004-'06) Dorsey played in 38 games (17 starts) and recorded 110 total tackles, 14.5 tackles for loss, and six sacks. After splitting time in a rotation behind Claude Wroten and Kyle Williams early in his career, Dorsey experienced a breakout season as a first-year starter in 2006. He is an explosive one-gap defensive tackle with outstanding initial burst and change-of-direction skills for his size. He will fit best in a one-gap scheme that allows him to stay on the move in the NFL. Dorsey could be the top interior defensive linemen selected in the 2008 draft if he continues to improve his lower-body strength and overall technique as a senior.

Sedrick Ellis
DT | (6'1", 305, 4.95) | USC

Scouts Grade: 97

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Strengths: A disruptive, penetrating interior defensive lineman. At his best in a one-gap scheme but has some versatility due to experience as a nose tackle and three-technique. He is extremely disruptive versus the run. Displays outstanding initial burst and wins most of his battles with first-step quickness. Uses long arms to keep separation and does an excellent job of disengaging from blocks and keeping on the move. Recognition skills are very good and he's athletic enough to change directions and pursue once he penetrates the backfield. He consistently generates pressure as a pass rusher. Shows upper-echelon closing burst for his position and also does a good job of batting down passes once he realizes he's not getting to the QB. Plays with a great motor and works very hard on and off the field. Never gives up on a play and his effort is infectious.

Weaknesses: Undersized; lacks ideal height and bulk. Not a good fit for schemes that require two-gap ability. Plays with a narrow base and will get overwhelmed by bigger blockers in the phone booth. He struggles to anchor when teams run at him and he really needs to be on the move in order to be successful. Durability has been somewhat of an issue; redshirted in 2003 due to injury that required surgery and missed three games in 2006 (Nebraska, Arizona and Washington State) due to right knee injury that required arthroscopic surgery.

Overall: Ellis arrived at USC in 2003 but received a medical redshirt after suffering a midseason left ankle fracture which required surgery. During his first three seasons (2004-'06) he saw action in 34 games making 86 total tackles, 16 tackles for loss, and nine sacks. Ellis missed some time in 2006 after having arthroscopic knee surgery. Ellis is a one-gap defensive tackle prospect that isn't for everybody but can be effective in the right scheme (see: Colts, Buccaneers, Eagles, etc.). If ranks among the elite prospects at his position and can solidify a spot in Round 1 with a healthy and productive senior season.

Dan Connor
ILB | (6'3", 228, 4.6) | PENN STATE

Scouts Grade: 93
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Strengths: Is tall with adequate bulk and room on his frame to get bigger. Displays good natural instincts. Is physical, tough and aggressive, but also disciplined. Plays with a mean streak and his motor never stops running. At his best when he's protected and playing in space. Reads his keys quickly, takes solid angles in pursuit and shows good closing burst to the ball carrier. Does a fine job of using his hands to keep blockers off his body as he pursues and shows good upper-body strength. Extremely reliable tackler; he breaks down effectively in space and consistently wraps up with good power at the point of attack. Gets good depth on his drops and displays adequate range in zone coverage. Displays good ball skills for his position. Has a nose for the ball and always seems to be in on big plays. Is an instinctive blitzer with good closing burst to the QB when he gets through the line.

Weaknesses: Plays a bit high at times. Stronger upper body than lower body. Plays with somewhat of a narrow base and will struggle in some phone booth matchups versus bigger blockers. Shows some stiffness in his hips. Good quickness laterally and coming forward, but takes a bit too long in transition when turning and running. Will have some trouble sticking with quicker RB's one-on-one in coverage. Character issues could play a factor in his draft stock; he was suspended for three games in 2005 after being cited for harassing phone calls.

Overall: Conner has played in 33 games (24 starts) during his first three seasons (2004-'06), registering 274 total tackles, 19 tackles for loss, 7.5 sacks, and three interceptions. He has also seen time at inside linebacker. Connor spent most of his career on the weak-side before moving inside as a senior to replace Paul Posluszny (Bills, 2nd round in 2007). If he makes a smooth transition it will only add to his value as a potential first-round pick. Connor has some minor character issues that could come back to haunt him a bit and he also lacks elite athleticism. However, his speed, tackling skills and tenacious style are the reasons he ranks as one of the premier linebacker prospects in the 2008 draft class.

 

[Dave]

NFLDraftScout.com's updated rankings Top 64 Junior Prospects:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...draftyear=2009

NFLDraftScout.com's updated rankings Top 64 Senior Prospects:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...draftyear=2008

NFLSmackdown.com Top 20 Underrated Seniors:
http://www.nflsmackdown.com/index.ph...d=481&Itemid=1

 

[CargoJon]

Trust me, there are no character issues with Connor. He made some prank phone calls a couple years ago, took his punishment, and has been a model citizen since....they make him sould like PacMan or something LOL.

 

[yankmccobb76]

It's come down to two positions for me......Dorsey and Ellis are gone so it's either Backer in the 1st and corner in the second (River/Cason) or corner in the first and backer in the second (McKelvin/Lofton).........just not sure Lofton will fall to us.

 

[supersaint15]

your right cargo. By the way Chung is a better safety than phillips