Do you listen to Rush Limbaugh?
I disagree. I know that all views may take an "intellectual beatdown" but it is the overall tone that rightwingers are simply "sheep" and that they are not freethinkers.
Implications are rampant that they "get thier marching orders" or "are brainwashed" just in these two threads.
And then when this is pointed out we get accussed of whining.
I dont really care, I am not scared and will not dunk a legit discussion, I have views that many on the board disagree with, and I feel I have [almost] always been very reasonable when discussing them, and though from time to time I may point out what I feel to be a condesending tone towards the low brow redneck religous right wingers, I generally have my discussions with out "whining."
even some people I believe are "moderates" on this board make such implications about rightwingers, especially limbaugh listeners, saying his listeners are sheep, and are brainwashed...
I just think that is an unjust, invalid, and unsupport generalization of MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people....
and frankly the tone is one of superiorority over the lowly sheep that listen to rush.
I'm responding to this post although I have read the thread to it's end (as of the time of me composing this)
I'll start off that yes, you are correct in that sometimes people espousing conservative viewpoints get called out as sheep. Sometimes even undeservedly so, but I think those points are rare.
For example, if I came back in reply to this post and simply replied "See? Conservatives are ruining the country. Jesus! Kill Muslims! States Rights!" and that was it, would you think my post was insightful and deserving of reasoned response? Perhaps you would, in that case you are the better man than I. Unfortunately, a lot of people do post those types of things, although the majority of the time it would be from the conservative fence: "See? Liberals are ruining the country! Godlessness! Homosexuality! Welfare!!" And if someone comes with a weak drive-by post of that nature, and if they get "Sheep!" response, then I don't have a problem with it. If you come back with a reasoned, thought out response, no matter how far away from my views, I won't disparage you although I might find your views hard to comprehend.
Personally, I think there are Rush listeners who are brilliant, and those who are ignorant, and many in between. And IMO most fall towards the non-brilliant side of the fence than the brilliant one, but I don't have facts to back it up so I don't comment on it -- it's just my personal observation. Plus I try to treat each poster as an individual rather than a generalization, but sometimes I do fail.
Having said that, I go back to the original point in this thread and the other that right-wingers are "ganged up on" by "the masses" and that the EE is biased against the right: hogwash. No matter what the view, if one brings a weak argument to the EE and expect people to pat them on the back, they are in for a rude awakening. I'll 100% cop to the fact that fools are not suffered lightly on the EE, no matter their political, religious, ethnic, or socio-economic affiliation. But I think the idea that the EE is biased against the right is completely bogus.