well ob, let me take it a step further, do you think Brady's arm was going forward when he got hit by wood son and fumbled the ball? Its all well and good to say that maybe it was but some people contend that his arm was not in the process of going forward and that the refs could not make up their minds totally if it was or it wasn't. it other words it was a border line hit and they guessed to bluntly put it. To this day some people cannot tell for sure if it was or it wasnt