Giants and Saints still talking?

Why is everyone screaming about not giving up the 2nd round pick? Since the Saints turned that down, how do we know what we're talking about giving for him? The article in question makes no mention of what offer is being haggled, only the former price from the GiAnts, which we declined.
Hold off and let's see what the price is before we start yelling, "bad trade".

As for Shockey himself, I think he is an excellent player. Sure, he's a head case and a loudmouth in the same way Turley was. He doesn't like Eli. That annoys me, but I know someone else outside of football who went to Ole Miss and they didn't like Eli, either. Just because two people don't get along doesn't necessarily mean either one of them is a bad person. I don't think Shockey will have any issues with Drew Brees, and considering Brees' propensity to make use of Antonio Gates in San Diego, I'm sure Shockey will be mightily pleased with the number of touches he gets with Brees as his QB, which apparently was part of his beef with Eli, the other being that he didn't think he was accurate enough and wasn't going to improve (which is a fairly dumb position to take on anyone IMHO, but there it is). I don't see poison here at all, I see a player whose frustration will be sated - and that makes for a happy camper. Just my $.02