Saints looking to trade up?!!!..... [MERGED]

Yep, Ellis has become over-hyped on this board since most realize it would be very difficult to move up to get Dorsey. They aren't the same player, it isn't even close. I see Ellis being a good pro that gives good effort with good physical tools. I don't see him being an elite player. Dorsey is the type of guy that go to ten straight Pro Bowls and anchor a great defense.

I can understand it if you were to say the entire NFL community was over-hyping Ellis, but to say it's just confined to the board is to ignore what's being said out there. Almost all the "experts" are saying that Dorsey and Ellis are 1a and 1b. You cannot say that we on this board have in particular over-hyped Ellis past what others are saying. While I think you would be way out on limb to say so, you would have to generalize the statement to the entire NFL community. What you see is a reflection of the generally accepted beliefs of the "draft experts" from what I have read and watched.

Like Spam said, there has been no DT that has been as attractive in the draft since Sapp. Dorsey has the size, talent, work ethic and motor to be a sure fire first round pick but he has perhaps the best technique, footwork and he uses his hands better than any rookie I have seen at the DT position which makes him a sure fire top 3 pick. He plays with outstanding leverage, holds his ground even against double teams and if an offensive lineman trying to block him makes the smallest mistake Dorsey will make him pay. DT's typically aren't NFL ready right out of the draft and if they are they typically don't play at a high level their first year. Dorsey is an exception he was NFL ready last year but decided to stay his Senior year and plays the position like a 5 year vet. He may not be able to penetrate and get to the QB like Sapp did but he will be just as disruptive and will do it his rookie year.

Dorsey will change the ways offensive coordinators game plan against us. Ellis is not that guy but he will be an upgrade.

If Dorsey was such a guaranteed impact, the Dolphins would not pass on him. Long is considered a very good OT, but he isn't even considered as good as Joe Thomas and he wasn't picked one. IF Dorsey was that big of a deal, he would be #1 hands down and we wouldn't be able to trade up for him anyway.

I think you are drinking the local water koolaid just a little bit too much.