Stop picking my nits. There are new concepts and there are old ones. This, along with Halo, are old ones. Brilliantly executed old ones, but old ones nonetheless. Neither MGS, nor Halo are worthy of the hype that fanbois give them. Both are good games, both are tops at what they do, but they're nothing special. They're not the end all be all of video games. But when Xbox owners cite Halo, they get the 5th degree about how Halo isnt anything special. So why shouldnt the same be said for MGS?