that could apply to this entire thread... it amazes me that the people who 'just don't understand' rap or hip-hop or whatever the new 'push the boundaries' trend is-- were the same people rocking out to Elvis or Alice Cooper or The Beastie Boys or whatever the old 'push the boundaries' trends were... i'm 34, and i don't get the low-ride shorts or some of the music i hear-- but i understand that it's to be expected that i don't, and that in 20 years there'll be something else for the kids to 'get' that the adults just can't understand... once you learn to embrace change instead of shaking your head and rolling your eyes-- you'll be a lot better off...