8-4. Defense will win plenty of games, but offense will lose their fair share as well. I think Saban is overrated as a coach - but let me clarify that. Saban is a great college coach and specializes in picking up a sleeping giant and making it respectable, but I have never seen Saban utilize his team to its full capacity. Just when it seemed he would get over that hump with Bama, he really dropped the ball in my eyes.