Having an 8th-ranked defense has nothing to do with it being intimidated so you're correlation there was wrong from the get-go. Philly for a long time had a good defense that didn't let you score, but they weren't intimidating. The point I was making is that their defense can be good with all those turnovers because it's now a short field. I provided an example of it, their game vs. Atlanta this year. Vick threw for 4 TDs and they scored 5 total on offense, and only 1 drive was for more than 50 yards. Turnovers lost the game yet left their defense not looking horrible (besides the points scored).