Theisman picks Steelers too.

Tweeky said

I don't get that logic, because just as many turnovers could happen in their opponnets red zone too.

I've seen them play several times this year. They look tough and they look physical. I don't understand how anyone can they aren't one of the tougher physical defenses in the league. Their only real weakness to me looks like their secondary is suspect.

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Re-read my posts and you'll never find me discounting whether or not they are tough. But you were correlating their toughness with the fact they are the 8th-ranked defense. They could have toughness and be the 28th-ranked defense. I've seen them play as well. I saw them let Michael Vick turn into Joe Montana (or since it's the Steelers, Troy Aikman) on them. He only threw for 232 yards, yet he had 4 TD passes. TURNOVERS! Yet the defense "held" Vick to 232 yards.

You may not get the logic, but I gave you an easy example to see. I didn't say EVERY turnover was that way, but that there are more than enough to skew the data. Say they turn the ball over 4 times in one game right at the 50-yard line. Say the opposition scores a TD each time. They would score 28 points off 200 yards of offense. THAT is the point. Their defense still looks good because the total yards would be low.

The Steelers have proven that their turnovers kill them. Out of 2 games Big Ben threw 0 INTs, they only won 1. Every other game he has played in he's lost. Ben is 1-7 this year and the only win was when he didn't turn it over. Their defense can still be good, but they're losing because of those turnovers.

Seriously, how do you think they're 2-6 and we're 6-2 if our stats are so similar? Their turnovers have KILLED them! They lost to both the Falcons and Raiders based SOLELY on turnovers.