I didn't say that you could not deny they were talented, I said that you could not credibly deny it.
Again, I can understand why some people don't like the music -- especially if all you have listened to is the studio produced CD's. I would not listen to that. I also am not a huge fan of Matthews' singing, and I find some of it irritating, However, the intrumental portions of those 15 minute live versions can be outstanding.
If you don't like DMB then you probably have not listened to the live CD's so you have no reason to know what I am talking about.