The ridiculous violence in N.O.

Go back and reread my post.

I never once made the claim that ONLY young black men get murdered or that it ONLY occurs in the bad neighborhoods.

Shootings near Bourbon, especially Canal and Bourbon are nothing new. Because the Quarter and tourism are the city's lifeblood, anytime something bad happens there (the doctor that was murdered during the mugging a while ago, or the shooting on Bourbon), it is ALWAYS sensationalized and overhyped. The murder in front of Mondo was shocking of course -- but it's not the first murder to ever occur in Lakeview, nor will it be the last. But murders in Lakeview are rare enough that it makes a news story and sticks in peoples minds. A news story does not make a trend.

Hispanics in New Orleans are, unfortunately, easy targets for muggings. They often get paid in cash, lack english language skills to handle reporting a crime, and sometimes lack documentation. The recent murder of that Hispanic man by the 13 year old is horrible. But it wasn't some completely random event. I used to live three blocks from where it happened, and that isn't a great neighborhood. While I don't know what Rafael Quintanilla did for a living, I know the neighborhood well enough to know that he probably worked construction. So high risk neighborhood and a victim with a high risk profile. The 13 year old is obviously a big shame, but I imagine he didn't approach the man intent on murdering him -- he was 13 and I think he probably did what 13 years olds tend to do, make mistakes. Don't get me wrong -- I don't want to minimize this mistake though -- his "mistake" cost a man his life. A tragedy, not just because Rafael Quintanilla is dead, but also because two young men's lives are most likely over before they ever really began.

Your "evidence" is nothing more than one off sensationalized stories. I'm not denying that violent crime cannot occur in good neighborhoods to innocent people. I'm not denying that violent crime has increased in New Orleans post-Katrina.

But I am refuting your stance -- that it's "spreading" and "changing" as opposed to just growing in scale.

If I'm wrong and you are right, there should be evidence out there beyond a handful of sensationalist stories picked from the evening news.

I've provided my evidence -- that the murder victims in New Orleans are overwhelmingly (but not only) young black males and that murders occur overwhelmingly (but not only) in a select handful of neighborhoods.

I'm interested to see yours.

Also, while my location says "London" -- I've lived and worked in New Orleans within the past year. I worked in the schools -- directly with 14 year olds with ankle monitors on. I've known students who died in the senseless street violence.

It is a horrible, horrible thing. It pains me, more than it pains the average white middle class guy from River Ridge. I still can't help myself, but I have to click on every murder story published by the T-P, even though I'm terrified I'll recognize the name, because I need to know.

We need to approach this issue logically and not over dramatize it. Grandmas in Lagensteins aren't being gunned down and neither are little kids playing soccer in Lakeview. So let's not act like they are.

Hyperbole does nothing here.



Good point.

The RSD Direct Run high school I worked in was, like most (all?) of the district open-enrollment across the district -- meaning that kids from all over the city came to my school.

I'm say that 75% of our fights were because the kids from New Orleans East were fighting the kids from Hollygrove or something like that. Many of these kids rep projects that they've never lived in or that they have only a slight connection to.



Anyone who follows the NOLA.com crime reports can easily see the pattern.

There'll be a murder on one street followed quickly (that night or the next day) by another in a different neighborhood. Then there'll be a third murder, this time nearby (a block or two away) the first murder. And so on and so forth.

Often the murders are just retaliation. You killed A so we killed Z, you then kill B, and so we killed Y.

It's a cycle sure...but is it affecting my hipster friend who bikes down St Claude to the Hi Ho Lounge? Or my father as he goes to work every day? No.

I disagree. It's different. For the most part, yeah, it's the same people who know each other killing each other. No doubt. But the frequency of the outlying, sensational stuff is increasing.

It's not hyperbole. You don't have to walk down the wrong street in quarter now to get mangled. It can happen in the 200 block of Bourbon at prime time. In a crowd. You say hyperbole serves nothing, but denial has even worse consequences.

I despise police brutality and aggressiveness. With the following, I'm not advocating it. Because I hate it and don't want to see it. I'm just stating what I think changed to allow crime more frequently in popular areas. I think it's possible that there used to be significant "off the books" justice meted out by the NOPD if people screwed up in the wrong area. Criminals were afraid of that. They're not afraid of the justice system, because essentially no one goes to jail for murder here. But they were afraid of the cops in certain instances.

I think that's gone, due to the recent public embarrassments and trials of NOPD officers. I'm not wishing for bully cops, or saying it was better that way. I'm just saying I think it's a factor.

We need to find a way to make a legitimate justice system more of a deterrent for criminals.