The ridiculous violence in N.O.

I find something conspicuously absent from the list.

In this thread, we've talked about how important it is for people within the communities to contribute to changes in the neighborhood, culture, attitude contributing to nature/frequency of crime, esp violent crime.

And yet, when someone cites an improvement/reduction (depending on the issue) - that's not often a listed reason. It's not just BHM's post, either. I've seen it elsewhere.

I don't know why that is.

I don't know why the reluctance to consider that the change is in part due to something internal. Every reason above is external (except the crack demand and, possibly, the Obama election).

Why can't a/the reason be (or at least include) a decision by those in the community and the stakeholders that enough is enough?

We want to see that. And people argue (even in this thread) that if we see that, we'll see a reduction.

Yet, when we see the reduction, we aren't all that convinced to list that as a reason. And we start considering all of these other factors.

It's strange.

I think we - meaning researchers, advocates, as well as those of us who are more or less bystanders from the outside - would do well to explore and highlight those changes from within to provide an exemplar for how a community can reclaim itself, esp its youth.

I think that mobilizes optimism while, at the same time, attacking the assumptions around criminality.

I think the problem with citing internal reasons as a positive contributing factor is because it's difficult to define and measure. I also think that people have a natural aversion to admitting they're part of the problem. So often I hear people say "If only 'they' would stop using drugs, drinking irresponsibly, and so on, things would get better." Yet, rarely acknowledging that they need to own up to their own behavior.

Playing the blame game never improves anything, and I think more people need to look in the mirror and ask themselves what they're doing to make the world a better place.

FWIW Oye, I appreciate your contribution to the thread. Critical thinking is an element sorely lacking in much of today's discussions of issues.