My case against Jarvis Jones

For me the tape/skills don't necessarily match the production. If Mel Kiper etc. had never (largely speculatively) ranked this guy as a top-5 overall player before the season, would you rank him as such from watching him? Not so sure many people would.

He does some things in college that he won't necessarily be able to do in the NFL. For example, a lot of his pressure came from just running around tackles. Of course he'll do that in the NFL (would be idiotic to assert that he won't), but odds are he won't be able to do it anywhere close to the degree he did it in college; he's not going to get to face Xavier Nixon or Mizzou's slow, over-matched RT every week.

He's still a clear 1st round guy and I wouldn't be all that disappointed if the Saints drafted him (well, depending on who's available) but wouldn't exactly call him a steal at 15.

I can't disagree with any of that. I think he is going to be a solid to good player in the NFL and #15 is probably the right value spot for him. So, taking him there is far from a bad thing. And I would be satisfied with the pick.

At the same point, I'd rather see Mingo fall to #15 and take him. Mingo has far more bust potential, but he also could be a star. Jones I think will be solid, but probably not much better ,if any better ,than Gallette, Butler or Wilson. And, I think what we need on defense is that star that can spark the team and risking a #15 pick is worth that chance. On the other hand, Jones would be solid, but I'd probably rather trade down and get picks to fill more needs and depth issues than to take what is likely to be a solid Rush LB at #15 when we probably already have 3 of those on the roster.