The Tesla backlash

I have not bought a NEW car from a dealer since 1991. And its unlikely i'll ever buy one again, the mark up for "new" is just ridiculous.

Was at the VW dealer 2 months ago. causally glanced at the new VW Beetle...they were over $30,000, for basically a 2 or 3 seat car (the newest model is smaller then the previous one)

I ended up buying a Toyota Sienna. Brand new the Sienna's are $30,000 or more. I found one 4 years old with 70,000 miles on it in excellent condition for a offer of $13,000.

no trade in, no financing.

the whole sales dealer process is complete run around, and dealers just don't take anything seriously until you just get up and walk out on them.