Virginia Traffic Tickets

VVextreme said
"legal" driving kills people too... Driving is dangerous, and we all take that risk everytime we are out on the road. but to say every single traffic law is reasonable or even fair, is absurd.

How about when you are at a traffic light at 4 am, and no one is around for miles? You still have to wait for that light to turn green, but does that make sense when you can easily tell no one is coming? Heck no.

And are all speeding limits fair and reasonable? Not even close. Furthermore, what's reasonable for one driver is not reasonable for another driver. I know plenty of driver's who shouldn't be driving period. What about the elderly who can't see anything? I know they have to drive to take care of themselves and might not have any other choice, but they are also endangering the lives of everyone.

The capabilities of a driver is relative to the individual driver. Therefore I believe the penalties should be for accidents, not trivial traffic laws that have little to no relevance to driver safety. Sure there are some good traffic laws out there as well, but just as many crazy ones. If you can handle driving 80 miles an hour safely, then you shouldn't be penalized thousands of dollars because of it.

Now if you drink and drive? Or if you kill someone, then go nuts. But driving 10 to 20 miles an hour over a speed limit on an empty highway should not merit such a steep penalty. This is ridiculous.

Nowhere in my post did I ever disagree with anything you said other than that you chose a poor statement to make your argument. Quit twisting statements and meanings as if everyone is against you and is an ally of the government and focus on the point I made, because you didn't even address that...you focused on "legal" driving.

You should know if you are even a remotely decent driver (debatable thus far based on your posts) that speed, as you said, isn't the greatest culprit in causing accidents. But the differences in speed are on the main reasons. If the speed limit is 70 and you are going 80-90, or even 50-60, then that's where the biggest risk comes into play.

But, you say that if you can handle driving 80, then you should be able to do it. Well, I hate to inform you of this, but there aren't individual laws in this country. Not every John Doe gets to pick which ones should apply to him. Reasons like those listed below are the purposes in the law.

Studies of individual drivers have examined how drivers' speed choice affects their likelihood of accident involvement. Accident records of more than 10,000 drivers were related statistically to their observed speeding behaviour. These showed clearly that accident risk rises the faster a driver travels: at 25% above the average speed, a driver is about 6 times as likely to have an accident than a driver travelling at the average speed. (see graph)

http://www.cyclenetwork.org.uk/info/trlspeed.html

There's plenty more out there to bring up...but I'm bored of this discussion and would rather watch the British Open today than debate you.

But to end this discussion I would like to go back to my original post. You said speeding doesn't kill people. I said that in some cases speeding is reckless driving, can you deny this? You haven't yet, in fact you ignored that question completely.