Record without Brees?

Drew is clearly the primary reason for our success this year. His pocket presence makes the offensive line look far better than they truly are. He is making every receiver we plug in look like an all pro. He's a true leader both on and off of the field, and he's a winner.

If we had failed to sign Brees, and went with either a journeyman (Collins, Kitna, Griese, etc) or a rookie like Leinart or Cutler (leaving VY out because we'd be undefeated if he was our QB), what do you guys think our record would be?

I think we'd be about 3-8. I can say that with a straight face.