Brees when targeting
Not every player can be pro-bowl material, but the thing I don't get about Fleener is when he was arguing with Brees about where he was supposed to line up.
It's pretty obvious at this point that Brees knows what he's talking about given his career and time-in-service with the Saints. What was Fleener thinking when Brees told him to line up properly and he thought, "Nah, I'm good, it's obviously Brees that doesn't know the play so I'll just argue my point" until Brees had to walk away and take the delay of game?
Only the most arrogant or bull-headed person could possibly think the problem was on Brees' end.
Even if Brees was somehow wrong, he's the QB. If the QB tells you to line up on the 50 and run figure 8's around the logo you run figure 8's around the logo.
Well, he did go to Stanford, and I think they know what they're talking about when they speak out there.
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That was pretty surreal, but that type of independence could be a good thing if channeled correctly. But yeah. In that moment it was just stupid.
You are really bending over backwards to justify Fleener's poor play, but none of this explains why he is so ineffective. A Billy Miller or Dave Thomas caliber player can easily out produce Fleener in the Saints offense.
You know what? Find a single non-sourceable and factual point in my post. I'm not attempting to justify anything, or doing any verbal or statistical gymnastics here. I'm just pointing out that statements aren't always accurate just because one person takes the time to type them out. Adder had some specific criticisms that I don't feel bear out when viewed through the numbers, so I posted said numbers. You're free to find some tangible data to challenge that assertion if you wish to.
And I'm not in anyway attempting to support the current product on the field. That has been dreadful. But Fleener's talent coming in was, in my opinion, well worth the risk to take.
if we have all this success developing tight ends, it is moronic to spend 7 million for the chance to develop another one. for 7 million you should be getting a plus player. this is further compounded by how tight we are against the cap and our dire need for a talent influx on defense and along the oline. we also went out and gave josh hill 3 million
It is akin to winning a single race with an average car, and then trying to upgrade the vehicle for a more consistent opportunity to visit the winner's circle. It doesn't always work out the way you planned, but that doesn't mean it was a bad move to make. Fleener has the ability to be a top five receiving option in this league. it hasn't worked out yet in Indy, but the Saints think that they can unleash the weapon with better results than the Colts' did.
In two games, it hasn't even been close to expectations, by the fans, team, and most likely by Fleener himself. That doesn't mean that it won't, or that it wasn't worth the risk taken to exponentially upgrade the position. Whether it ends up doing so or not is anyone's guess at this point, and it honestly doesn't look promising so far.