" [Some] JPSO deputies won't work [voluntary] Bonnabel [HSFB game] detail after players kneel during anthem"

andregurov said

I certainly wouldn't contest any of the above; the issue is that the "kneeling" as symbolic act has overtaken the purpose, it seems to me. For that I could very well be wrong and there may be many people involved in intelligent, substantive, and productive conversations as a result of the act of kneeling for the anthem. Perhaps these are just the beginning steps on the path to real change. Obviously, dead citizens and mass incarceration haven't been.

But for many people the only take they get out of it is that the flag and anthem that stands for it are being dissed. That view may be entirely wrong, but if it is the perceived message it IS the message, fair or not. Just look at the police who refuse the Bonnabel detail ...

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I completely disagree. You and I were ignorant of this issue until now I presume and here we are talking about it. I learned there was more to the anthem than I ever knew. I think it's been intentionally hidden from us, as well.

Dead citizens and mass incarceration has not worked. Waving the flag and singing a song with hidden meanings hasn't worked either.

What's wrong is that your perception of what's happening has been clouded by people selling politics.

The act, as you put it, has brought us to this dialog and I hope this dialog will allow us to recognize the problem. It may force some to even consider there is one if they'll take theif fingers out of their ears and hear the message instead of buying into the right wing nonsense telling them it's anti-Murika.