Well, we're dealing with different topics here. Sure a lot of it is intertwined, and requires unpacking, but we're delving beyond what we started with here. I'm not and never intended to try and make anyone here think anything. It's more than I can speak on in this thread and do it justice. If you genuinely want to discuss more, I'd be happy to do so via PM. If your intent is just to pick apart what I post here, I'm not interested in discussing further because we'd be getting far away from what my intent for participating was in the first place.