Famous/Infamous Villains

Optimus Prime said

It’s been awhile since I watched battle star but I remember Gaius’ actions were always more being about self preservation or self interest than truly villainous

Even when he became president or leader of that cult he was just taking advantage of the opportunities that were presented to him

And for the most part the opportunities were presented to him, he didn’t seek them out or create them

Am I remembering right?

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Well it’s why I was wishy-washy about Norman Osborn — to what degree is he in control of his actions to say he’s villainous?
6 was pulling his strings the 1st half of the series (and who was pulling her strings?)
You’re bringing up the cult is an interesting point - I ‘think’ that was when he was first trying to break from 6’s control
and then I ‘think’ that is when she starts questing her own programming

For the humansCavil is an unambiguous villain - everything else is good and squishy