COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (18 Viewers)

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Dallas county 1085 today. It’s a broken record to say it’s a new daily record.
 
Hopefully Edwards comes out with another strong statement along the lines of "Let's try and be safe out there."

So, the front page of the T.P./Advocate says that there is a shortage of COVID tests in New Orleans but I can't find that information anyplace else. And, the article that says that does not appear online. I'm curious what's up with that?
 
They did. No idea what to think. I'm thinking more testing needs to be done because there are enough side effects to worry about.

First, the headline is a bit misleading since in the first sentence of the article it says " But the findings, like the federal government's use of the drug itself, were disputed." And then goes on to say " It's a surprising finding because several other studies have found no benefit from hydroxychloroquine, a drug originally developed to treat and prevent malaria. President Donald Trump touted the drug heavily, but later studies found not only did patients not do better if they got the drug, they were more likely to suffer cardiac side effects. " And, they limited its use to patients with no cardiac issues. " "The combination of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin was reserved for selected patients with severe COVID-19 and with minimal cardiac risk factors," the team wrote.

So, while it can be helpful in some limited circumstances as another tool in the treating doctor's tool kit of drugs, it's not some savior or solution to the problem. It doesn't prevent Covid and it can only be used on specific patients and it only really helps if the patients are treated with it prior to having severe symptoms.

Second, many of the prior studies showed that it did not prevent getting the disease and that was what some claimed it would do early on in all this. As far as I recall, it was always thought that it might help as a treatment. The issue is that it has some bad side effects, heart issues specifically, that make its use highly questionable in regards to the treatment being worse than the disease.

But I'm sure SaintInBucLand will soon ask once again why they don't report the numbers of recovered more often? It's almost as if his posts have a consistent agenda and a drive-by posting nature.
 
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Didn't they run stories prior to this stating that it was not effective?
They did based on numerous, multinational double blind studies.

This study didn't use double blind, it had hand picked candidates based on risk factors that were determined by this one hospital and weighted differently than global consensus.

The average age of the people that did not receive the medication was 71. The average age of the person that received HDQ was 53. Next they weighted comorbities among BMI, immune compromised, cardio conditions, kidney disease, COPD, Hypertension, Asthma, Cancer and diabetees. A whole bunch of "funky" things went on in that study. The age difference being one, the higher average BMI of patients that didn't receive drugs vs the lower average of those that did at every age group. Things like Astma and Hypertension being weigthed heavier than things like Obesity and COPD which are contradictory to CDC publications. Finally, the candidates that received medication were those without certain underlying heart problems.

In other words, this study looks very much manipulated.


For example, if I was going to weight factors for stats to determine the best QB in 2020 I could make them show whatever I wanted. Reduce weight of interceptions just a little, equal weight completion percentage, add weight for yards per completion, overweight touchdowns and Jameis Winston would be the best QB in 2020.

If they had used median age people with comorbities weighted according to CDC or WHO guidance then the study would have a lot more validity. Then again, if they did that the results likely wouldn't be that much different than the double blind studies.


What this study does tell me is that BMI and Age are probably the most important factors in mortality from Covid and likely by sizeable margins.
 
So, the front page of the T.P./Advocate says that there is a shortage of COVID tests in New Orleans but I can't find that information anyplace else. And, the article that says that does not appear online. I'm curious what's up with that?

I saw somewhere they were reducing daily tests (per site) from 250 to 150 because of “supply chain problems”.
 
I saw somewhere they were reducing daily tests (per site) from 250 to 150 because of “supply chain problems”.

The article in the physical paper seems to suggest there is some sort of nation wide shortage due to lack of supplies from the Feds. Which I have no problem believing. But, its Weird that a shortage of tests isn't being more widely reported. I know that as of a couple weeks ago there were no issues with getting tested because two people in my office tested positive which sent everyone running to get tested and nobody had an issue getting tested.
 
First, the headline is a bit misleading since in the first sentence of the article it says " But the findings, like the federal government's use of the drug itself, were disputed." And then goes on to say " It's a surprising finding because several other studies have found no benefit from hydroxychloroquine, a drug originally developed to treat and prevent malaria. President Donald Trump touted the drug heavily, but later studies found not only did patients not do better if they got the drug, they were more likely to suffer cardiac side effects. " And, they limited its use to patients with no cardiac issues. " "The combination of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin was reserved for selected patients with severe COVID-19 and with minimal cardiac risk factors," the team wrote.

So, while it can be helpful in some limited circumstances as another tool in the treating doctor's tool kit of drugs, it's not some savior or solution to the problem. It doesn't prevent Covid and it can only be used on specific patients and it only really helps if the patients are treated with it prior to having severe symptoms.

Second, many of the prior studies showed that it did not prevent getting the disease and that was what some claimed it would do early on in all this. As far as I recall, it was always thought that it might help as a treatment. The issue is that it has some bad side effects, heart issues specifically, that make its use highly questionable in regards to the treatment being worse than the disease.

But I'm sure SaintInBucLand will soon ask once again why they don't report the numbers of recovered more often? It's almost as if his posts have a consistent agenda and a drive-by posting nature.

Thanks, that's a good summary of it.
 
What are y'all's opinions of face shields instead of masks. I'm seeing quite a few of them (mostly at one place in particular in Metaire, and they don't seem like they would be as effective as masks (either for the wearer or the rest of us), but people seem fine with them and I guess they meet the requirements of the mask mandate.

I keep picturing somebody with one good sneeze gobbing up their face shield and having to wipe it all off. :covri:

The mask isn't meant to prevent the wearer from catching it. It's meant to prevent a carrier from spreading his/her droplets when sneezing,coughing,or talking. A doctor was a guest on WWL radio yesterday.
He said if 2 people were in close contact and both were wearing a mask, the odds of transmission if one was infected to the other that wasn't was less that .001 %. This why other countries have it under control. It's mandatory in those. We refuse to listen. Muh Freedem
 
I remember when when this (new cases 7 day avg.) went from 25 to 40 and I was like “whoa”

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I think FL is going Floridaman this thing, but I'm also really worried about AZ. They have a 20% positive rate which is 5% more than the next state. They are at the top for hospitalization rates. They have the second largest indigenous population who often have a higher percentage of comorbites. Apache county is 75% indigenous with zero congregate setting cases so it must be just running through the community. They shutdown last week which so maybe they top out in the next few weeks.

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I remember when when this (new cases 7 day avg.) went from 25 to 40 and I was like “whoa”

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Yep, meant to post last night that Charleston's lead grew pretty substantially yesterday with 7 day rolling average increasing about 8% in one day.

We still aren't seeing any places with doubling rates anywhere near what we saw in the spring but Charleston is certainly trying harder than everyone else.
 
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