Hill vs Siemian why is there a debate?

Not necessarily. I have been defensive of Winston because I believed that CSP could rid an otherwise physically talented QB of his turnover tendencies. He has done so (so far) by spoonfeeding him the offense - something he also did with Drew, Bridgewater, and Taysom.

I'm not quite ready to defend Taysom as QB because he has not been named the starter and I'm not sure how his serious concussion will impact CSP's decision to start him at QB.

That said I always have, and always will, support whichever QB CSP places under center. If/when he chooses Taysom as to be the starter I'll support him.

But in no case have I, nor will I denigrate any of the 3. They're Saints and as long as they wear the b&g I'll support 'em.
I was talking more along the lines situationally with Saintamaniac. Some are claiming that those who disregarded O-line and WR play as defenses of Winston better not offer them up as defenses of Taysom. Okay, cool. But those who were open to such things as defenses for Jameis better be just as open to them as defenses for Taysom when equally appropriate.


No, I reject that premise. IMO, it was wrong to be critical of Winston without taking Oline and WR's into consideration. If I'm wrong that it follows that it was okay to do that. If I'm wrong that means it perfectly fine to be critical of Winston without taking Oline and Wr's into consideration. If that's the case then there's nothing wrong with doing the same with Hill.

Given the situation with the Oline and the WR's, I believe it was wrong to be critical of Winston or any other QB without taking that into consideration.

The people who were critical of Winston don't believe that. If Hill gets the start, I will still believe it's wrong to be critical of Hill without taking those two things into consideration. I will be looking to see if those folks STILL believe that it to be okay of Hill without taking that into consideration or if they magically have an epiphany and realize that it's not right to not take those into consideration. I suspect that Oline injuries and WR inexperience will become acceptable considerations when evaluating Hill.
Fair enough. But see my reply to Thunderchild above. All I'm saying is that if you don't want to see the Jameis critics flip in beliefs (what should or shouldn't be a fair criticism) due to Taysom being the QB now, you should also not want to see the defenders of Jameis flip in beliefs due to Taysom being QB now either.