Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered?

bigdaddysaints said
@jahsoul357 , you missed a key part of my post. Sure they can spread it, but the viral load is much worse from unvaxed, that can make a huge difference in how bad the effects can be.
Are you saying the vaccine has zero protection from the virus and zero effect on spreading it?
Unless you can give me other proof that 90% of the deaths of unvaxed are not vaccine related, I'll listen. It's sure not a coincidence.
If we can get 18+ close to 100% vaccinated, then i agree the under 18 may not need the vaccine to help save lives of the ignorant anti vaxers

So peak viral load is said to be equal among vaccinated and unvaccinated but the viral load is much worse from the unvaxed?

To answer your second question, if I'm reading everything correctly (and my medical folks here can correct me if wrong), the vaccine speeds up the decline of viral load, which then reduces symptoms. If this is the case, does it really effect the level of contagion or just decrease the time you are actually contagious? (question for my medical folks).

Saint_Ward said
John Hopkins medicine covers most of this. It goes with what I was saying earlier.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...rus/covid19-vaccine-what-parents-need-to-know

Now, I haven't read over all of this, but this is this is the CDC's overall strategy for Covid.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/global-response-strategy.html

I'll just highlight the goals. Everyone can read the rest at the link.

Honest question. Do we have any research on the children that are actually getting sick and are requiring admission? Is there a trend or is it random occurrences? The only thing that I've read points to the child who had a serious case also had heart problems as well. Just wondering if you've seen anything out there.

brandon8283 said
Yes.

Why?

brandon8283 said
And what about the minority that do?

fork ‘em, right?

What are reports telling us? Are the kids who fall into the minority also fall into the category of underlying medical issues (or obesity)? Guess what category they will then belong to?

brandon8283 said
It does reduce the spread by reducing viral load, and it protects the children that, for whatever reason, actually do have a bad reaction.

bigdaddysaints said
You can mention viral load until you are blue in the face, it will just be ignored, it won't be acknowledged

brandon8283 said
No they aren’t.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext*what's going on with this URL*

Or it could just be a misunderstanding on your end. Everything points to the vaccine not reducing viral load but making the viral load decline faster.

brandon8283 said
Absolutely.

But if it doesn't stop person to person spread, does it really? lol