Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered?

jahsoul357 said
So peak viral load is said to be equal among vaccinated and unvaccinated but the viral load is much worse from the unvaxed?

To answer your second question, if I'm reading everything correctly (and my medical folks here can correct me if wrong), the vaccine speeds up the decline of viral load, which then reduces symptoms. If this is the case, does it really effect the level of contagion or just decrease the time you are actually contagious? (question for my medical folks).
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I saw one paper that said peak viral loads are similar, but that vaccinated people have viral loads drop off a lost faster. So, on the average, a vaccinated person would still be less likely to spread the virus to someone else. 1, they're still less likely to catch it, and 2, as you're saying, they will get rid of it faster, so less days (less chances) of being infectious, and after peak infectiousness, they won't throw as much virus at someone. So, if you think of someone coming into contact with a lot of people over a 5-10 day period, the vaccinated person, if they caught covid, would be infectious for less time, and mostly at a lesser amount.

Now, if you caught the vaccinated person who happened to catch covid, and an unvaccinated person who happened to catch covid, on the same peak viral load day, well, then it may be somewhat equal, on that day. It's a lot like saying my car is just as fast as a Corvette at a red light.


jahsoul357 said
Honest question. Do we have any research on the children that are actually getting sick and are requiring admission? Is there a trend or is it random occurrences? The only thing that I've read points to the child who had a serious case also had heart problems as well. Just wondering if you've seen anything out there.
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Well, I posted that entire John Hopkins Q&A and remember, the big part was about stopping community spread, which again, the odds of catching covid lower, so less potential spreaders... It also flat out said that severe illness was uncommon. So, I wasn't trying to say otherwise.

However, if you read all that, and saw two links talking about children with hospitalization, one of those links leads to this research on state hospitals. I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, and I'm not sure if they get into kids with underlying health issues. I know of one story that was local here, where the kid was chubby, but otherwise seemed healthy.

https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-n...children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report

Summary of Findings (data available as of 12/9/21) :​

Cumulative Number of Child COVID-19 Cases*​

  • 7,196,901 total child COVID-19 cases reported, and children represented 17.2% (7,196,901/41,786,102) of all cases
  • Overall rate: 9,562 cases per 100,000 children in the population

Change in Child COVID-19 Cases*​

  • 164,289 child COVID-19 cases were reported the past week from 12/2/21-12/9/21 (7,032,612 to 7,196,901) and children represented 23.6% (164,289/695,385) of the weekly reported cases
  • Over two weeks, 11/25/21-12/9/21, there was a 4% increase in the cumulated number of child COVID-19 cases since the beginning of the pandemic (297,311 cases added (6,899,590 to 7,196,901))

Hospitalizations (24 states and NYC reported)*​

  • Among states reporting, children ranged from 1.7%-4.0% of their total cumulated hospitalizations, and 0.1%-1.9% of all their child COVID-19 cases resulted in hospitalization

Mortality (45 states, NYC, PR and GU reported)*​

  • Among states reporting, children were 0.00%-0.27% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 6 states reported zero child deaths
  • In states reporting, 0.00%-0.03% of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death
* Note: The numbers in this summary represent cumulative counts since states began reporting. In this summary and full report, the data are based on how public agencies collect, categorize and post information. All data reported by state/local health departments are preliminary and subject to change and reporting may change over time. Notably, in the summer of 2021, some states have revised cases counts previously reported, begun reporting less frequently, or dropped metrics previously reported. For example, due to several changes on their dashboards and the data currently available, AL, NE, and TX data in this report are not current (cumulative data through 7/29/21, 6/24/21, and 8/26/21 respectively). Readers should consider these factors. States may have additional information on their web sites.
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For additional information on US child hospitalizations from the CDC, visit https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#new-hospital-admissions

For additional information on US child mortality from the CDC, visit https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics
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https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#pediatric-data

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This one basically says lately, 1-2% of pediatric covid cases go to the ER. Once you get over 25, it's 4-6% of cases go to the hospital.

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About 1000 deaths under 17, if I am reading this right. percentage rounds down to 0 in each category, but it's not 0 deaths. the numbers show on the website when you hover over each bar.

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