Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered?
Except I didn't estimate effectiveness. Read page 5-14 and look at the data that is presented.
Pointing out the rate of infection does not equal estimating the effectiveness of the vaccine.
The tables that are listed shows the amount of people that has gotten COVID. What you are pointing to is speaking about is "J&J is 85% effective against this; Phizer is 90% effective against that."
So looking at the table 11, even taking the percentage of vaccinated persons into consideration, the vaccinated are catching COVID at a much higher rate than the unvaccinated, unless one of my medical peeps or statisticians tells me I'm reading the numbers wrong.
And you keep coming at me about reading comprehension, but you clearly didn't read what I said in that post.
I've read what you've said in every post. I've understood the implications of what you've said as well, which is apparently more than you have.
As is the case here. Your claim is that the report on effectiveness on transmission (on page 12, which is very much part of pages 5 to 14) where it states,
As described above, several studies have provided evidence that vaccines are effective at preventing infection. Uninfected individuals cannot transmit; therefore, the vaccines are also effective at preventing transmission. There may be additional benefit, beyond that due to prevention of infection, if some of those individuals who become infected despite vaccination are also at a reduced risk of transmitting (for example, because of reduced duration or level of viral shedding).
only 'sounds great' until you 'get to page 32'.
Except, as shown, page 32, clearly states, in bold, that 'These raw data should not be used to estimate vaccine effectiveness', which would include effectiveness against transmission since, as described on page 12, effectiveness against infection is part of effectiveness against transmission. Additionally, as stated in the post you just replied to, the footnote to the table on page 39 is explicit about the rates shown not being applicable to vaccine effectiveness estimates, and that these have been summarised on pages 5 to 14. Again, page 12 is a page in the ranges 5 to 14. Because 12 is more than 5 and less than 14.
In other words, the report is literally and repeatedly explicit on 'page 32' and the tables you've copied and pasted having
no bearing whatsoever on the formal estimates on vaccine effectiveness,
including the effectiveness on transmission, on page 12.
So it doesn't 'sound great until you get to page 32'.
It just sounds great. Because it is pretty great. Because it shows that vaccination helps reduce other people's risk of exposure as well as helping protect those vaccinated.