Conduct Unbecoming

Man we can agree to disagree. When people talk about QB's and let's say the hall of fame they talk championships. How many qb's are in the HoF that don't have a championship, if there are any I would bet that number is small. Brady owns the majority of QB records what other measuring stick can there be?

We could also say situation dictates the success of a QB. How many were placed in bad systems?

What about different eras?

There are so many variables but the typical deciding factor is statistics and Brady has most of them.
Semper, I agree wholeheartedly that eras MUST be taken into consideration. Sonny Jurgenson, Otto Graham, Terri Bradshaw, certainly Dan Marino, could ALL be in consideration for being better than tom.

Remember, the VAST majority of his career consisted of beating up a perennially weak AFC Least. All those passing yards? The patriots would be up by 2+ TDs, and old Tommy boy was still out there slinging it late into the fourth qtr. At the same time, the Saints (led by one of the greatest QBs of the modern era, Drew Brees, would be handing the ball off, killing the clock.

I don't recall Drew ever passing, just to pad his stats, which Tom clearly was doing.

Yes, tom's talented. Then why the need to cheat repeatedly over the course of his career. There's at least three scandals that come to mind that directly affected tom's performance. An inherently weak division, a guru for a coach, a roster that was annually studded with probowlers, and the scandals (who even knows what he WASN'T caught at?!) Heck with all that handed to him, if he was anything more than mediocre, he should have had another four SB appearances.

Rules have been changed to benefit Receivers and QBs. Can't hardly touch either anymore. Used to be 14 games in a season, now there's 17. The shape of the ball has been made more aerodynamic to augment the passing game, and college programs have adopted many of the schemes of the NFL, giving players an earlier start on the skill set they'll need at the next level.

In short, I'm not buying all the hype about his "greatness". He's almost as arrogant as Rodgers, and not nearly as talented as Brees. Factor in guys like Payton Manning, Russell Wilson, Brett Favre, and even a couple others, and that's just THIS era.

brady USED to be cool and calm under pressure. Not so anymore. Pressure is his weakness. I hope everyone else has taken notes and exposes him for the mediocre pile of dung that I believe him to be.