Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered?

dtc said
Thanks for the detailed thoughts. Would I be correct to add that the self reported incidents being posted as proof could all be incorrect and despite a relationship in time and sequence, unrelated to covid?

Anyway, I completely believe there are very slight risks of odd and unexpected results from vaccines or anything. Hell, people have died from having their first sip of coca cola evidently, but that odd, rare risk has been analyzed and found to be so insignificant in the face of the very real risk of contracting covid that it's stupid to refuse if the alternative is certain death from being denied a heart transplant?

Further, as a medical professional, were you to be on the board judging recipients potential outcomes, would you not weigh a refusal to accept medical advice very, very harshly? And, for clarity, imagine some other refusal other than the covid vaccine. Let's say he has to stop chewing tobacco for a year in order to be considered for a lip transplant and he refuses.

I posted this on the politics site a couple weeks ago, but it's not political. Some of the context is missing since I was replying to two people

Re vaccines and deaths.
----------------------------------------

Since we're talking about vaccines now, let's just go to the CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

I will say this, without getting cute on semantics, at least 9 confirmed deaths have occurred after J&J/Janssen Covid-19 vaccination caused TTS (Thrombosis with Thrombocytopenia Syndrome). Now, TTS doesn't have to kill you, and now that they know about the issue, it's less likely.

Outside of that, 'reports' of death from VAERS is up to about 10,688, but I don't think any of those have been confirmed (what MT15 is probably meaning to say). So, 9 for sure. Maybe up to another 10,688. Amazingly tiny fraction compared to how many have been vaccinated. And I seriously doubt 10,688 died due to vaccination, as much as Farb seriously doubts that number is zero. I'd agree with him, it's not zero. But it's no where near 10,688. Probably an order or magnitude or three less.

CDC is providing timely updates on the following serious adverse events of interest:

Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 5 people per one million vaccinated in the United States. Anaphylaxis, a severe type of allergic reaction, can occur after any kind of vaccination. If it happens, healthcare providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis.

Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 vaccination is rare. TTS is a rare but serious adverse event that causes blood clots in large blood vessels and low platelets (blood cells that help form clots). As of December 16, 2021, more than 17.2 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA identified 57 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine and later developed TTS.

CDC has also identified nine deaths that have been caused by or were directly attributed to TTS following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination. Women ages 30-49 years, especially, should be aware of the increased risk of this rare adverse event. There are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen.

To date, three confirmed cases of TTS following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Moderna) have been reported to VAERS after more than 470 million doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered in the United States. Based on available data, there is not an increased risk for TTS after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.

Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine is rare. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Most people fully recover from GBS, but some have permanent nerve damage. After more than 17.2 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine doses administered, there have been around 283 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of December 16, 2021. These cases have largely been reported about 2 weeks after vaccination and mostly in men, many in those ages 50 years and older.

Based on the data, the rate of GBS within the first 21 days following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination was found to be 21 times higher than after Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna (mRNA COVID-19 vaccines). After the first 42 days, the rate of GBS was 11 times higher following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination. Analysis found no increased risk of GBS after Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna (mRNA COVID-19 vaccines). CDC and FDA will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of GBS occurring after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available.

Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart. Most patients with myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination responded well to medicine and rest and felt better quickly. As of December 16, 2021, VAERS has received 1,947 preliminary reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 years and younger who received COVID-19 vaccines.

Most cases have been reported after receiving Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, (mRNA COVID-19 vaccines) particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have verified 1,124 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. Learn more about myocarditis and pericarditis, including clinical considerations, after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. More than 496 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through December 20, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 10,688 reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA clinicians review reports of death to VAERS including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records.