Without Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis record is 32-44 right now

Perhaps. But also look at the fact that the only reason Loomis wasn’t run out on a rail along with Payton after the 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons of 2014-16 was because Jeff Ireland helped refocus a really poor draft and scouting strategy that had led poor talent and poor depth at all 3 phases.

Ireland is as much responsible for the success we had from 2017 to 2021 as Payton and Loomis.

Ireland is in the building now. But he won’t be forever.

So I guess what I was implying is that Loomis was supposed to be a “cap guy” and we are in cap hell more often than not in his tenure. Loomis isn’t really a talent guy as aside from the 06’ draft where we were drafting in the 2nd spot of every round - his drafts were lacking until Ireland joined the team.

Which begs the question - he isn’t great with the cap and he’s not a talent evaluator. So what is it he actually does well?

I’m seriously asking.
Well, during that time the Director of college scouting was Rick Reiprish and the Director of player personnel was Ryan Pace. Rick Reiprish was let go. He went to the Steelers. And Ryan Pace eventually went to Chicago Bears. So I doubt that Loomis was calling the shots on what players to bring in during that time.