Derek Carr world tour thread (updated with combine visits)
Would you feel comfortable with Payton coaching the Saints this past season? I wouldn't. And if Payton was coaching last season, they likely wouldn't have drafted Olave so it might have been even worse. Payton even said either before or after the draft that he didn't see a need to draft a receiver high in the draft for the Saints. Could you imagine this past season without Olave, with any coach?
What about 2021? Were you comfortable then? Payton or no Payton, the Saints don't have a Superbowl roster, and trying to hold DA to that level without the horses to do that is unreasonable. The Saints have a .500 roster right now with or without Payton. DA may or may not be a good HC, but blaming DA for the Saints being mediocre with the current roster is absurd.
And, I fail to see how this is a lot different from early in Payton's tenure where he had a good offense and a bad defense. DA has the opposite. The defense is good. Just fix the offense. I don't see how that's a lot different except that they don't have a veteran future HOF QB. If Payton had missed out on Brees and drafted Leinart, he would be an OC somewhere. Carr answers a lot of questions, one way or the other.
Ah, where do I start....
Had CSP coached the Saints last season I believe we would have won the division (easily), made the playoffs and while, with the injuries and such, this was not a SB roster, we would have had at least a chance....
The season would have been worse because CSP would not have drafted Olave? Ok, I'm not sure how to even respond to that but it's....an interesting take....I mean just one, albeit very good, rookie WR got us to...gulp....7-10? Olave, in the big scheme doesn't even factor into the equation here, this team was devoid of leadership, illogically conservative and for the last half of the season, really couldn't score in the 2nd half (or the 1st really)....
You fail to see how this is different than CSP's early tenure because you are completely ignoring reality or the facts.....his first year we went to the NFC championship game (coming off a 3-13 record the year before), we had a down year the next year, a slightly better one the next and then SB.....
And this what if he didn't have this or that type arguments are totally nonsensical.....unrelated to the facts.....totally discounting the notion that Brees improvement at QB may have been partly due to CSP and his offense designed to maximize his strengths.....
Wake me when DA has his 1st winning season, folks going to lengths to defend a coach who has 1 single win in 50 games as a HC (against a team with a winning record) is just mind boggling to me....
And, I guess, you weren't paying attention, but the year before last (CSP's last year) we had more injuries than last year, no Olave (see what I did there) and still finished 9-8 and should have been in the playoffs, I believe the Saints set an NFL record for injuries (starts missed by starters), and played 4 different QB's.....would you be comfortable with DA coaching that roster? because it was worse than last year's....
And I'm not trying to hold DA to any "level", I would settle for competent, his style of conservative football we have seen before, in today's NFL it simply doesn't work....Maybe DA will learn from this season, it's not impossible, but IMO not likely....but your arguments supporting him are patently absurd....IMO.....