Derek Carr world tour thread (updated with combine visits)
I'd only disagree that Carr is an average qb. Last season was his first where he was decidedly average, and there were issues that led to that beyond him.
If he's in the right situation, I think he's solidly a top 10 qb. I see people saying he's not going to be any better because of our coaching, but clearly, if DA has another poor season, then next year, you get a new coaching staff and hopefully someone who can get the most out of Carr.
Whether he's worth it is certainly debatable, but considering how hard it is to find a top shelf qb, I think you get one while you can rather than waiting for a rookie to pan out.
Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Lawrence, Hurts, Rodgers, Jackson, and Stafford are firmly ahead of him.
I suppose you can argue that he’s a part of the next group, a very big group. Prescott, Goff, Geno, Tua, Cousins, Daniel Jones, Watson, Murray, Purdy, Wilson, and Tannehill. I suppose at a guy like Fields could have an argument, though I wouldn’t agree. Jimmy G probably has an argument but I think that availability is a skill, so I say no. But you can see…I listed 20+ guys who I know that some would take over Carr if they were starting their own franchise today.
Below that tier you have unproven young players like Pickett, Mac Jones, and Lance and veterans like Brissett, Dalton, Minshew, and Winston rounding out the top 32 QBs in the NFL.
I personally think that the second tier is closer to the league average QB than the bottom tier, and considering that Carr is firmly in that second tier I think that he is pretty average. But heck…average is better than we have had the past two seasons. I’m just not sure that an average QB is worth $45 million/year, especially with our build. I think we are a few years away even with Carr…so I think that Allen’s fate is almost sealed. Do we really want to invest $45 million per on a QB this year knowing we have a lame duck HC? I say that’s foolish. Ride out the storm and regroup next season