Derek Carr world tour thread (updated with combine visits)

sammymvpknight said

If an NFL was conduct a re-draft with all available players…I’m pretty confident Lawrence would go top 5.

Carr wasn’t particularly good two years ago…before McDaniels. I’m not particularly interested in getting a QB that can be good in certain schemes. Carr was good three years ago, if that was the guy we’d be getting I’d be fine with it. But there is no guarantee. Carr has only thrown for 25+ TDs once in the past 6 years. That’s while having receivers that are capable of getting in the end one….Cooper, Waller, Renfrow, and Adams

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The first comment is subjective but I already understood you have a high opinion of him, and I'm not down on him. Mostly, I think he hasn't done enough to separate himself from the bigger pack and take a place among the elite QBs, that isn't largely based on expectations and speculation. His numbers last season were very career-Carr like. With the advantage of youth on his side, if the hypothetical was choosing between Lawrence and Carr then Lawrence, absolutely and without hesitation. But, at this point, I'd take him behind Mahomes, Burrow, Hurts, Allen, and Herbert with the same degree of certainty.

Your other thoughts, while directed at Dave, appear in agreement with my comment about situations and supporting cast, and I think those are the circumstances where all of that next tier of QBs falls. Any of them seem capable of rising in the top 10 or flirting with the bottom tier, depending, and it's that uncertainty about them that makes them next tier players.