Derek Carr world tour thread (updated with combine visits)

Judge_Smails said
Why does he have to pick who he “would like to get”?

Having strong opinions, as you do, is nice and all, but it’s just your opinion that Carr is the only smart choice.

Just like it’s only your opinion that it is weird, dumb, stupid or wrong to think the Jets might be more attractive to him than NO.

Here is another opinion:

The Saints have an historically bad HC that is most likely not going to get better at it.

The Saints have a roster that still has talent, but also the kinds of major holes and money tied up in descending players that make the idea of paying $40 mil a year for a QB1 that is in the front end of the middle of the pack (compared to his peers) a bad move.

Rather than sink a huge amount of the current and future cap into that contract and the restructuring of descending player contracts needed to do it (which will likely garner more time for DA, even if next year is similar or worse than 2022); it would be better to sign an affordable bridge QB that fits (I would shoot for Teddy B). And use the draft and saved cap space to strengthen the current roster holes.

If Allen fails, which I predict he will, then the new HC can have the biggest role in upgrading the QB spot.

And to be clear I am not rooting for failure for Allen or whoever plays QB. And I live in reality, meaning I know he will be HC for at least 2023z

I still see the failure swirling around Allen though and while I hope he improves I would never bet on that. Instead I would short-sell (hedge) in anticipation of what is coming.

A lot to unpack here.

First, the Carr point is that he’s the best available player at the most important position in the game. And we need to upgrade. I asked who would be better, given the circumstances.

Secondly, you can say all you want that you don’t want Allen or the Saints to fail. But if you’re advocating doing something other than getting the best QB possible, you are selling short their chances. Again, that’s the point.

And finally, it’s been pointed out over and over that “bottoming out” is far from the best option wrt turning around a team. In fact, as much as people don’t want to acknowledge it, there’s likely a better chance of Allen “figuring it out” than there is if the franchise bottoming out and magically finding the right combo of coach and QB later.