Derek Carr world tour thread (updated with combine visits)

Saint Spud said
The thread is about Derek Carr and his free agent visits. Posters have somehow derailed it into a thread about how this franchise is hopeless with Allen as HC.

You’ve also created another straw man argument that “winning the division” also equals “an 8-9 record.”

The team isn’t tanking. So why can’t we discuss ways to give Allen and this staff the absolute best chance to prove everyone wrong and show that they’re not incompetent?

A straw man argument is guessing what the future division winners record might be? 8-9, 9-8, 10-7, what does it matter if it doesnt make you a contender. The actual division winner last year was 8-9. Who had a HoF QB, and still werent contenders. You keep making this up as you go. You cant see that winning the worst division in NFL history - current best QB is Sam Darnold - could lead to more years mired in mediocrity. Its an accomplishment, but long term goal? I dont think winning this division next year pushes us down the road to the next Payton/Brees run.

Its an accomplishment. It doesnt make us contenders. It doesnt push us toward becoming a contender.