A straw man argument is guessing what the future division winners record might be? 8-9, 9-8, 10-7, what does it matter if it doesnt make you a contender. The actual division winner last year was 8-9. Who had a HoF QB, and still werent contenders. You keep making this up as you go. You cant see that winning the worst division in NFL history - current best QB is Sam Darnold - could lead to more years mired in mediocrity. Its an accomplishment, but long term goal? I dont think winning this division next year pushes us down the road to the next Payton/Brees run.