I said it and it’s true, you may be misunderstanding what ”ceiling“ means in terms of TH. Ceiling means, if TH played his absolute best he could ever play, then he could only reach what LJ is now and No more. His ceiling would be LJs floor. Where LJs ceiling is who knows, I cant even think of someone to compare that better than him as an RPO QB. I guess his ceiling would be that his passing level got to Carrs level while retaining his skill running the ball.