PFF - have y'all seen this

Rouxble said
On NFL Radio about a week ago, Pat Kirwan and Jimmy Miller were asked about the Saints prospects for 2023. Kirwan said that Saints fans will love Carr until they see him in the red zone, so it made me think that Kirwan posts here under the name @jahsoul357.

Pat also said that, while Carr is a good QB, to put yourself in the shoes of a fan for any of the Saints division rivals… is he so good that they think they won’t have a shot at the division? Both he and Miller said no, which admittedly was a punch in the gut because I like their show and their takes/analysis on the NFL.

As someone said earlier, we have to earn it this year. A QB who has been good but not great, and a HC without a winning season. I’d like to believe we made the right moves to turn it around this year, but we have to go out and win some games before anyone will see us as the clear top team in the NFCS.

I dang near spit out my water..lol.
Honestly, that's all I've been saying from the jump. Due to unbalanced reporting, we've come to believe that Carr is this major upgrade but the reality is there was never anything tangible to quantify or qualify that opinion, especially when you realize that we lost a lot of games because we could not convert in the red zone. No matter how folks want to slice it:

Waymer said
To be fair, Carr has absolutely been bad in the red zone. That's not to say he can't improve. It's not to say it is even all his fault (you could certainly say the Saints have a better cache of weapons if all are on the field). But he has definitely been beyond bad in the red zone, especially compared to the rest of the league.

And this is all I've said. I'm not on the "it take weapons" train, as our 2021 squad consisted of nothing but UDFAs, Trautman, and Kamara and the first 5-6 games of the season, our RZ conversion rate was freaking 93%. I think it has more to do with coaching and the QB itself, because things change when you have a short field to work with. Even with our RZ conversion rate tanking mid season in 2021, it was still better than last season.

I'm hopeful that it can get turned around but I wouldn't bet my life on it.