PFF - have y'all seen this

Actually, if you read the thread, you would know that Drew Brees was sitting on top of that "bowl of cherries" in this discussion. Also, regarding "happenstance," please reread this part:



There is no such thing as happenstance when a "standard" is set.



I gave my answer; DA made his pick and that's who I'm rocking with. And I gave that answer because I don't think you really want to talk football, but I'll indulge you.

Objectively, it is all on the crafted offense.

If DA wants the offense of "Broken Brees (2017-2020)," then Carr would be the better choice. If DA wanted the offense of "Brees of Times Past (2008-2015)," then Jameis would be the better choice. "Why" you ask? Familiarity.

2017-2020 Brees ran a WCO while 2006-2015 Brees ran a Coryell based offense.
*Carr has been in a WCO since college and the vast majority of his time in the league, with the exception of last season. McDaniels runs the Erhardt-Perkins system, which is a total departure from what Carr is used to. Not much to say about the WCO offense, as our media outlets talk enough about it...lol
*In college, Jameis ran what Jimbo Fisher calls "Multiple Offense," which at its core is the Erhardt-Perkins system (same set of concepts ran from a lot of formations). He comes into the league and Lovie Smith decides that it is going to be Air Coryell for him. He ran that system all the way up to "No Risk It, No Biscuit" and if folks were really paying attention to the 2021 season, they could see where our offense was trending.

The way you read the field is completely different and it relies on different "strengths." Jameis and DC4 both have identical completion percentages from behind the line to the 10 yard line, so it is not a case of "can they make the throw" but the throws and reads that they are used to making. The divide is the intermediate throws; this is Jameis' bread and butter (no one has thrown that pass more in the league since 2015) and this is always where your reads "start" in a Coryell, as the Coryell is normally a "Top Down" read (pick your poison but the deeper route is usually the first read. Think Prime Brees dropping back and looking downfield first before coming back down to the checkdown) while WCO is side to side. Jameis also throws this much better than Carr..like much better. This is also where raw numbers on passes over 20+ yards gets "screwy" but that's another topic.

WCO - Carr all day
Air Coryell or Erhardt-Perkins - Winston without even thinking

Now personally, if I had to pick a QB to build my system around between those 2, I would pick Jameis every day of the week; why?
*When DC4 got into a completely different and complex system with a crazy coach, his TD rate went up but his completion percentage dropped, his yards per game went down, and his interception rate increased.
*When Jameis got into a completely different and complex system with a crazy coach, his TD rate went up, his yards per game went, his completion percentage dropped, his interception rate exploded, but he still led the #3 team in both scoring and yards WITHOUT a run game.

But when you actually peel back the layers of that 2019 season, it shows a lot more and for those that really know football know that we dodge a bullet with the Bucs thinking short term vs long term. Because the truth is, both Carr and Winston would have been much better 2nd season in McDaniels' and Arians' systems, respectively. Imagine a QB throwing 5k yards and 33TDs in what is said to be their worst season because they are still learning the system and then things "click."
Are you saying that Jamie's should be starting over Derek Carr. That's ridiculous. Jamie's had his shot and he flopped.