PFF - have y'all seen this
Case and point where stats are meaningless.
Its the Raiders guys, they have been horrible for generations because of the disfunction of the upper leadership. Example: Josh McDaniels / Hue Jackson / Callahan / Turner / Kiffin / Cable / Allen -- all horrible choices for Head Coachs and most of them only lasted 1 to 1.5 seasons - how do you expect to build a winning team when your main leader is replaced every 1.5 years?
Put yourself in any job youve worked in. How much of your success is because you had a great team around you or a leader that pushed you to greatness?
We don't know what Carr brings to the table. He finally is getting an opportunity to come to a stable organization, with real proven talent on the roster instead of a team full of drafted potentials.
Carr was a Raider for 9 seasons and was coached by 2 coaches for a total of 6 of those seasons and Grudens staff and offense was still in place after he was gone. And contrary to popular belief, Carr had great coaching. Matter of fact, let's compare the Patriots offensive ranking in 2021 compared to 2022. Also, let's compare the Raiders offensive ranking in 2022 compared to most of the seasons Carr has been there. McDaniels might suck as it relates to people but I think their situation might look different next season.
Hey sometimes you have to believe what your eyes are telling you. That’s the first measure, the eye test, then stats to back up what your eyes saw, if it was true. Do you think the NFL scouts were blown away at P. Mahomes pro day because of his college stats? Or what they witnessed him doing in person? It didn’t take a rocket surgeon to figure out that PM was the next great QB. You can say the same about Burrows. JW behind center for the Saints didn’t pass the eye test. So all of this going back and forth with stats is moot. He simply wasn’t getting it done YET, and time was his enemy.
He didn't pass the "eye test" but the problem is nobody really looked at things outside of him and I will be the first to say that I believe that folks were "overly critical." Every pass had to be perfect and every read had to be the right one (guess what; Drew Brees made the wrong read plenty and threw his fair share of bad passes,). And honestly, we were expecting him to create miracles given what we actually had to work with in 2021.
Did Jameis make some bad throws and wrong reads at times? Yes but my eye test also showed a line that could barely protect, RBs outside of Kamara that couldn't push the ball, WRs who were bottom of the league in separation with all of our quarterbacks being among the highest in drop percentage (and film actually shows more drops that weren't count) and no kicker that could consistently make a FG. And even with this, before injury, the Saints were one of the most efficient team in terms of scoring, Jameis was among the league leaders in TD passes, and we were top 10 in converting 3rd downs. This is why I also mentioned in the past that the eye test is "finicky." A lot of people talk about eye test but can't see the forest for the trees. The only game we can really look at be and be like "man, Jameis was trash" was the COVID game, and truth be told, our entire team played like trash that day. That was a horrible game on both sides of the ball.
And Mahomes or Burrow drafted to the Urban Meyer Jags would have been a different story. Mahomes was not drafted to turn a franchise around; he was drafted to get them over the hump. Hall of Fame coach, proven offense, and winning culture was already in place. He was drafted to probably the best situation any QB has been drafted into. And people hated when I said this but Chase getting drafted there was the X-Factor, because it gave Burrow the best receiver core in the NFL and he benefitted from that greatly, unless we ignored 2020 before he got injured. Situation matters as much as skill.
He’ll be a late bloomer like Geno Smith. Or the Titans Qb, Tannehill.
Neither were late bloomers; they just went to situations where coaching believed in them. Did he need to mature up some? Yes, indeed but Geno always had the skill to play in this league. But we somehow overlook the fact that he was drafted to the New York Jets and Tannehill was drafted by the Joe Philbin Dolphins? We seem to ignore the situation that a player is drafted in, unless we like that player. The Raiders are not the only dysfunctional organization in the league..lol
If you’re at Air Force running the triple option, then you’re correct. But if you’re throwing less than 200 in Sean Payton’s offense you’re doing terrible. JW is a late bloomer. He’s not there yet.
You do know that those TD numbers had him among the best in the league at the time of his injury, right? LOL. And he only threw less than 200 yards the first 3 games; he threw over 200 the last 3 and they began opening up the offense since the Giants game., as he averaged over 30+ passes his last 3 full games. Plus a late bloomer throw for over 5k yards in a season; I'm just saying...lol